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  • Interests Programming - Object Oriented Design and wish to witness the destruction of scripting programming.<br /><br />History - Currently studying Egyptian, Greek, and Roman history. Though I enjoy most any type of world history. I'm working on building my own history library.<br /><br />Philosophy - Objectivism and the history of philosophy. I spend time watching the Oist on youtube's videos. I also buy alot from ARI and listen to their lectures. Currently on, "The Art of Thinking".<br /><br />Economics - Jean-Baptiste Say is the undefeated champion of economic thought. Not only is his theory right on, it lacks all the rationalizations and baseless statistical analysis that most schools of economics do today. It is my belief that no one has written a more complete and correct treatise than Say.<br /><br />Painting - Oil painting is my most recent new hobby. My goal is to paint figures from history with the sense of life that I like.
  1. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I don't think pleasantness is intrinsic or anything like that. If to you, being pleasant to others (not based on any individual thing about them) is giving big smiles to everyone, I would disagree with your statement before. That is why I said it depends on what you mean by it.
  2. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    Considering that I laughed just thinking about this game, I think I'd lose... I wonder if a forum version of the game could be devised...
  3. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I don't know. Do you think this looks like a fake meanness?
  4. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    Now I'm confused. Its subjective? Or contextual according to how I am somehow?
  5. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I think it is both. You have to let the old ideas die off. As Peikoff said, when he started to get into the Pragmatist mindset, he would have to tell himself something like, "No! Existence Exist!" Then he would force his focus elsewhere, perhaps on Objectivism, but would not even think about Pragmatism for a while.I used to have this problem with freewill (just like Peikoff gives an example of). I'd say, "Yes, I choose to do such-n-such, but WHY did I choose it? What made me think of the reasons!" I could carry that argument on forever. It is only by cutting those line of questions off, ignoring the horrible feeling of, "but I want the answer!", and thinking about something else. After awhile, as long as you understand what is correct, the feeling of, "but I just need to be certain!" will turn in to, "wow, that was silly of me to think that!" But note that this only ONLY AFTER knowing what is right intellectually. First one has to go through what Betsy said about subconscious premises earlier.
  6. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    While I wish this was true, I don't think it is, at least for me. If this was true, it wouldn't of taken Peikoff 10 years to get over Pragmatism and longer to get rid of rationalism. It isn't the case that all one has to do is find the underlying problem with their subconscious and BAM! they no longer have the wrong feelings.Depending on the problem and how long one has had it, it can take much longer to disintegrate it from one's subconscious.
  7. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    That totally depends on what you consider, "being pleasant."Also, the reason I said one should take their standard everyday look first, is to show that I DON'T mean the stone-cold face thing. However, if a person's everyday look happens to be the stone-cold type expression, then I see no problem with showing that face at a party until you have a feeling that makes you smile. At a first pass, I'd simply think, "that person is probably the serious type, at least until he gets to know someone," which is a fine type to be.
  8. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I'm not meaning what you think I'm meaning.
  9. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I either don't understand the point of this in relation to what we have been talking about, or I don't understand it on some more fundamental level.
  10. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    Let me rephrase: I would be able to tell when a Mouch type fake smiled at me without knowing he was a Mouch type.I might not know he is a Mouch type, but I would be able to say, "That is conscious control of his muscles and not based on an actual feeling." I have seen exaggerations so bad (and they were seriously doing it) that the person would either be faking it or have something seriously psychologically wrong with them. And I _know_ people at my work enough to know that a lot of them aren't smiling based on an emotion they feel for me. Furthermore, I know that I used to do the same. I can see the difference in my own face.
  11. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I say, it is only the first step. In any problem of this sort, identifying the underlying bad premise is only the beginning. Once you do this, you can get to the equally hard or harder part of disintegrating it. Of course it depends on the scale of the issue.
  12. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I don't know if I'd care enough to tell them when I leave. I have told my manager's boss about it, and he agrees. I think I agree with judging the long term value and acting accordingly in terms of hiding it or not.
  13. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    I agree with this most the time. But just as there are times to suppress certain emotions (like at work), I think there are times to suppress certain degrees of disgust and such I might feel.My manager is a real emotionalist but right now I have to work with him to do my job. Do you think it is rational to show him the extent of my negative emotions towards him? (Usually its nothing bad, and he doesn't effect me. It's just those rare times he catches me off guard.)
  14. A problem dealing with people who act nice

    Because people should be selective in their values. I work at a place where I get plenty of these big smiles. I've gone to places where a person gives a big smile to everyone, followed by a normal look when they leave. The fact that I see this is enough to say that something is wrong. It is enough to agree with the premise of the topic here, and move on to the meat of it. That is all I meant by "That is enough to address this topic."Just as a person who claims to love everyone really loves no one, a person who gives an ecstatic smile to everyone, doesn't really feel the emotion to back that smile. I have seen sales people, HR directors, and just everyday day labor type people who smile like this; and it isn't just to me. This isn't to say I'm not great to look at!
  15. Mild mannered , but big on violent sport

    Many martial arts are different than violent sports though. Aikido involves breaking wrist, necks, backs, etc, but actually practicing it is generally healthy. You train your joints to take more strain and you learn how to take falls better. But that's because it is for self defense, not sport I suppose.About boxing: with proper pads and such, it can be a great sport to play. The exaggeration of this is those air machines where you put on 3 foot punching gloves. But there is plenty of strategy in boxing, as well as automatized skill required that can make it very fun to watch. I love seeing how a person can glide through an onslaught of punches. However, I generally stick to Jacky Chan movies.