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Osama Bin Laden Killed

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It's a little early to say, but it Looks like Osama Bin Laden has been killed in a U.S. Air attack.

Regardless of the military importance of this, I think it represents a major symbolic victory for America. Great job Military! :)

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Good news, but only great news if the next shoe to drop is one off the lifeless leg of Ayman Al Zawahiri, the true number 2 of Al Quaeda and the brains behind the 9/11 attacks.

Otherwise, http://www.theonion.com/articles/eighty-pe...-now-dead,5159/

I am so disgusted at the priorities of our administrations(s) that Public Enemy No. 1 took 10 years to kill, or did he die of natural causes? If it had happened sooner, it would have given the Junior Jihadis pause. I think we will have to do much more to stop them now.

But, yes, it is a damned good thing that that monster has been excised from the planet. They should cremate him and bury his ashes in an unmarked grave in a pig's bladder, facing down. Not my superstition, but happy to oblige.

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Despite the effort of the military it took to do it, it remains only symbolic. And it is rapidly becoming a misleading symbol at that. The threat is much broader than one person like Bin Laden, even though he was the alleged founder of Al Qaeda. The most serious threat is still from within the country, of which Obama himself is one symptom and which is making the external threat by the likes of Bin Laden more serious. Yet the killing of the monster Osama has already become a source of campaign slogans by monsters like Obama posturing on behalf of the American way of life and wrapping themselves in the flag as they try to 'mainstream' themselves and create a psychology of 'unity'. I can't get excited about running down one primitivist monster like Bin Laden with everything else we are facing, especially from within the country.

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Despite the effort of the military it took to do it, it remains only symbolic. And it is rapidly becoming a misleading symbol at that. The threat is much broader than one person like Bin Laden, even though he was the alleged founder of Al Qaeda. The most serious threat is still from within the country, of which Obama himself is one symptom and which is making the external threat by the likes of Bin Laden more serious.

Absolutely. I just returned from a heated debate with Facebook "friends" over whether or not it was right to kill Bin Laden at all. Made me ill, but it clearly illustrates your point about internal enemies.

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What didn't happen, what wasn't said:

The President: "Today, 10 years later than we would have preferred, the symbolic leader of Al Qaeda was captured and killed. This is notice to those subordinates that covet that top spot. You're next. Our goal is the elimination of the threat posed to the United States by Islamic Jihadists who have declared war against us.

To those who haven't raised a weapon against us, but might have contemplated it or have been recruited to harm Americans, go home now and you will have a chance to live. To those who have acted against us, there is nowhere safe for you to run or hide. We will make it our business to rid the world of you. To regimes who have made it their business to support or train or supply these enemies of the United States, you are our enemy, we will end you, at a time of our choosing. For those uncommitted, choose sides now. You are for freedom, or you are against it. We are not negotiating, we are acting in self-defense and we will not stop until the threat is removed, from within and without."

What we heard was [Paraphrase]:

"You are not our enemy. We love Islam and Jihad. I am up for reelection and I need something with which to court the independent vote. The head of Osama will do nicely. Gosh that was easy. I mean... it was really, really hard, especially when you consider that our good friends the Pakistanis were sheltering the comfortable lifestyle of the known murderer of over 3,000 Americans and other nationals in the heart of their country, for almost 9 years, and we didn't want to embarrass them by pointing it out. We love the enemies of America. And to them we say: 'We hate America just like you do. Please don't be mad at us.' But we expect that they will take their anger out on us and we should be ready for that. So, Americans, prepare for more deprivations and assaults on your privacy and propriety, as we 'tighten up security' by treating every American as a hostile enemy, except those who fit the profile of a hostile enemy. Perhaps all Americans should consider converting to Islam for their own personal safety. My Fellow Americans, Prepare for this overdue victory to be turned to my personal advantage, to the complete destruction of the American economic system, of your personal freedoms, and to the furtherance of Socialism, and my political career. Thank you."

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What didn't happen, what wasn't said:

....

Damn, I wish THE FORUM had a "like" button. Since it doesn't, I am going to "share" it on Facebook.

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I got this memo from The Left today:

In case no one got the memo, sending secret assassination squads in a unilateral military operation to execute leaders, based on intel extracted from detainees who was tortured, is moral again. I know the last 8 years with Bush may have confused you, but all of these things are moral again.

But seriously, the complete lack of principles on display from the left, as they swagger with pride and gloat "Obama did in 2 years what Bush couldn't do in 8", is nothing short of astonishing.

What's more important to know is that Obama had little do with this practically speaking. As the following link documents (based on wikileaks info)

http://minx.cc/?post=315642

the final mission against Bin Laden was really the culmination and climax of nearly a decade of intelligence operations by the CIA and other such groups, based entirely on the "dreaded tactics" established under the Bush administration that were categorically condemned by Leftists for all 8 years. Now we get the double injustice of both witnessing them about-face and no longer condemn these tactics, but then pretend that 2003-2008 didn't happen, and Obama just got the job done because he is the man.

Everyone should be prepared to counter this new major talking point, which is that Obama, in his wisdom, magically used new tactics that starting from scratch produced in 2 years what Bush couldn't do in 8. This couldn't be further from the truth, which is that Bin Laden's capture was the result of a long, painstaking process spanning years that used tactics which Obama would never have allowed.

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I got this memo from The Left today:
In case no one got the memo, sending secret assassination squads in a unilateral military operation to execute leaders, based on intel extracted from detainees who was tortured, is moral again. I know the last 8 years with Bush may have confused you, but all of these things are moral again.

But seriously, the complete lack of principles on display from the left, as they swagger with pride and gloat "Obama did in 2 years what Bush couldn't do in 8", is nothing short of astonishing.

What's more important to know is that Obama had little do with this practically speaking. As the following link documents (based on wikileaks info)

http://minx.cc/?post=315642

the final mission against Bin Laden was really the culmination and climax of nearly a decade of intelligence operations by the CIA and other such groups, based entirely on the "dreaded tactics" established under the Bush administration that were categorically condemned by Leftists for all 8 years. Now we get the double injustice of both witnessing them about-face and no longer condemn these tactics, but then pretend that 2003-2008 didn't happen, and Obama just got the job done because he is the man.

Everyone should be prepared to counter this new major talking point, which is that Obama, in his wisdom, magically used new tactics that starting from scratch produced in 2 years what Bush couldn't do in 8. This couldn't be further from the truth, which is that Bin Laden's capture was the result of a long, painstaking process spanning years that used tactics which Obama would never have allowed.

To summarize, essentially Obama had a politician's dream placed in his lap:

For the 8 years that the Bush administration did the "dirty work" of bloody warfare, torturing detainees, wiretappings, etc, Obama and the Left scored points morally condemning these actions. Then Obama finds himself in the set of command, continues most of these policies despite condemning them, and bears the fruits of those 8 years of labor as it culminates in the capture and execution of Bin Laden.

For 8 years he and the Left got to damn the means, and now reap the ends, all while still maintaining the smug faux moral high-ground of the pacifist who condemns the necessary acts of war of his predecessors even as he continues them. Don't let them get away with it.

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Obama or not, this was the right way to conduct the operation. The imagery of an elite commando storming a compound and putting two bullets in his head is far more powerful than the anonymity of laser guided bombs flattening said structure. The symbol is important: justice eventually arrives to the enemies of America. Quietly, unstoppably.

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