Doubt cast on CO2 as cause of "global warming"....

[ruveyn ben yosef 0]

Please see article in the Manchester Guardian. It appears that the effect of water vapor has been underestimated by climate scientists.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/water-vapour-climate-change?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

ruveyn

[Carlos 0]

Please see article in the Manchester Guardian. It appears that the effect of water vapor has been underestimated by climate scientists.

http://www.guardian....P=ILCNETTXT3487

ruveyn

They don't know to what amount water vapor affects temperature at all. The feedback mechanism of water vapor in in the atmosphere is just one of many free parameters in their climate models which can be fiddled with arbitrarily until they can satisfactorily fit prior temperature curves. This is just a game of curve fitting.

[ruveyn ben yosef 0]

Please see article in the Manchester Guardian. It appears that the effect of water vapor has been underestimated by climate scientists.

http://www.guardian....P=ILCNETTXT3487

ruveyn

They don't know to what amount water vapor affects temperature at all. The feedback mechanism of water vapor in in the atmosphere is just one of many free parameters in their climate models which can be fiddled with arbitrarily until they can satisfactorily fit prior temperature curves. This is just a game of curve fitting.

Exactly. Which is why we do not have climate science. We have climate models with far too many adjustable parameters.

What I would like to know is how people who cannot predict weather two weeks out (weather is driven by chaotic dynamics) can predict our climatic doom exactly. Hmm.....,.

ruveyn

[ewv 0]

Please see article in the Manchester Guardian. It appears that the effect of water vapor has been underestimated by climate scientists.

http://www.guardian....P=ILCNETTXT3487

ruveyn

They don't know to what amount water vapor affects temperature at all. The feedback mechanism of water vapor in in the atmosphere is just one of many free parameters in their climate models which can be fiddled with arbitrarily until they can satisfactorily fit prior temperature curves. This is just a game of curve fitting.

Exactly. Which is why we do not have climate science. We have climate models with far too many adjustable parameters.

What I would like to know is how people who cannot predict weather two weeks out (weather is driven by chaotic dynamics) can predict our climatic doom exactly. Hmm.....,.

I think they would answer, if they thought of it, that they are only trying to predict mean trends, like properties of a gas when you can't predict where an individual molecule will bounce to, but they try to do it by curve fitting to promote climate hysteria, not science.