Darrell Cody

Agenda 21 - It's Collectivism Evil Out Of The United Nations.

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Agenda 21 is an United Nations based plan that gives capacity to local governments to do what they want to people's property. Just like nationalization, communism, theft, etc..

It is something we must fight.

http://news.yahoo.com/tea-party-versus-agenda-21-saving-u-just-050156332.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21#Opposition_in_the_United_States

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/11592-alabama-adopts-first-official-state-ban-on-un-agenda-21

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I have looked into Agenda 21 a well. This is the real deal, and it must be stopped. The UN needs to be moved out of the USA and the USA needs to drop its membership.

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Exactly how do you propose to fight "Agenda 21"? The "sustainable development" ideology of "Agenda 21" is not "UN-based" and the UN has no authority to give local governments the power to do anything. It's an anti-private property rights agenda of the viro activist organizations, mostly in the US, who have been attempting to implement it in every level of government they can: local, state and national, using the agencies they already control. Publications put out by UN bureaucracies are only parroting that, as illustrated by their Earth Summit at Rio de Janeiro in 1992 where it was first publicized under the name "agenda 21" in an attempt to build international political momentum for it.

The source of the authority to implement this agenda is (and is becoming worse as) the same power they have to do anything. If you want to oppose this you should start by focusing on the major viro organizations and the major bureaucracies they control from the National Park Service to US Fish &Wildlife Service to EPA etc. and the equivalents in state governments. The viros are the source of the problem and are the lobbyists for it. Chasing windmills over a "UN global plan" will not help and has only become a black helicopter conspiracy theory diverting attention from the real sources of the problem.

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Exactly how do you propose to fight "Agenda 21"? The "sustainable development" ideology of "Agenda 21" is not "UN-based" and the UN has no authority to give local governments the power to do anything. It's an anti-private property rights agenda of the viro activist organizations, mostly in the US, who have been attempting to implement it in every level of government they can: local, state and national, using the agencies they already control. Publications put out by UN bureaucracies are only parroting that, as illustrated by their Earth Summit at Rio de Janeiro in 1992 where it was first publicized under the name "agenda 21" in an attempt to build international political momentum for it.

The source of the authority to implement this agenda is (and is becoming worse as) the same power they have to do anything. If you want to oppose this you should start by focusing on the major viro organizations and the major bureaucracies they control from the National Park Service to US Fish &Wildlife Service to EPA etc. and the equivalents in state governments. The viros are the source of the problem and are the lobbyists for it. Chasing windmills over a "UN global plan" will not help and has only become a black helicopter conspiracy theory diverting attention from the real sources of the problem.

Great. Let's fight whatever infringes on individual rights, like Ayn Rand taught us to. UN or local government departments.

Just fight!

Work with your local Tea Party to fight the UN, Agenda 21, or local government departments.

Find your local Tea Party here: http://www.teapartypatriots.org/local/

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Do you understand my post above on this topic? There is no "Agenda 21" UN global plan taking over local governments. The UN does not have the authority to do that. If you understood the slogans copied from the viro agenda in the now 20 year-old "Earth Summit" documents you know that what you are opposing is environmentalism. The viro organizations are driving the eco-fascist agenda and are exploiting government power in this country. If you want to oppose it then learn about the viro organizations, what they are doing and what to do to fight them. Yelling "just fight", exorting us to go to Tea Parties to tilt at windmills against "Agenda 21 and the UN", and quoting Ayn Rand to us on totalitarianism isn't going to help.

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Everybody:

Ayn Rand stated that Totalitarian states - run by people seeking POWER - rise on the claim of benefiting "the common good", which they never define, and consists in practice of harnessing the productive, looting the productive and murdering dissenters. Things people would never do for personal benefit, theft and murder they do to benefit - "the common good". It is a rubber phrase that can be taken to mean whatever the looter government power quester wants it to means. Observe "the common good" is the opposite motive here of "individual good", since active individuals get sacrificed, to benefit the power questers.

The issue and danger of Agenda 21 IS what is puzzling to you - it's vagueness. Like the phrase "the common good", it's danger, it's lethal effectiveness is it's ambiguity. It says it promotes the undefinable, the amorphous, the things that any local government official can state are benefited or harmed, according to THEIR determination. Who in heck can say what will "benefit future generations" (a "common good" concept)? It certainly, though, should not be a local government elected official Who knows what resources "ought to be conserved" (conserved for who? By who? Until when?). This law can be enforced to mean anything anyone can want it to mean - and that is the usual method of the people seeking power, to be used as a positive sounding justification for theft. Like the income tax and the Obamacare Mandate. All these things violate individual rights for "collective benefit". And it is done by using these types of vague, puzzling tactics, that are hard to comprehend, unless you identify the real motive: POWER. It is the power they are after now, that is all.

It is the vaguely defined and initial feeler of power questers, looking to see what they can get away with, and it is being done by power quester people at the UN to coordinate with power quester type people in local governments. They are slowly trying to see how much they can get away with, just like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Income Tax, Obamacare, government infringement on liberties by not law but "regulations" all started small and grew into the huge evil it is today.

You must catch on to their tactics. THIS IS their tactics. They have done nothing major or tangible yet. This is the first step to get to do so. Agenda 21.

BUT THEY WILL.

They start with the small and vague and harmless or fake positive sounding that gives you undefined power, and then spring something on people in small and larger steps backed up by it, until you have control. And while people (like some here, with all due respect) are scratching their heads wondering what is the motive of this, and what are they up to, you are not identifying the big thing they are up to: Agenda 21 gives people at the UN potential power at the local level!

THAT is what they are up to. As Ellsworth Toohey said "Don't try to analyze the incomprehensible. Just look at what it accomplishes."

Agenda 21 accomplishes United Nations influence over you at the local government level, which is the start step for a world government dictatorship. THAT is what they are up to. Sounds paranoid? Read the introduction to Anthem, and the whole book: "We have a local council, a national council, even a world council. If these do not hold total power over all our lives, is it from lack of intent?" - Ayn Rand. This kind of step is what Ayn Rand warned us about.

So what do you do about it?

Speak.

That is what you do.

Ring the alarm bells, tell people about it, and what they are up to, EXPLAIN it to others, as I am explaining it to you, so people don't sit there like victims waiting for victimization because the enemy is devious enough to use the same vague positive sounding tactics they usually use. "Common good", "Conservation", "Sustainable development", "benefit future generations". Tell your local tea party about it, discuss it with friends and family, get the word out. It's a power quester's evil methods!

Write an article for your local paper, blog about it, email this post to everyone you know. Do all that, do something, but fight!!!

And read this essay by Ayn Rand. And start getting savvy to the methods of our enemies:

"The Moral Basis of Individualism"

by Ayn Rand

Readers Digest, January 1944, pages 88 through 90

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Ayn Rand did not write about "Agenda 21" and nothing she wrote supports the attempt to blame "Agenda 21" as a UN global takeover plan as the source of the threat of the viros, taking over "local government", or anything else. It is a black helicopter UN conspiracy theory repeatedly referring to "them" and "they", ignorant of what real people in the real world are actually doing and what their source of power is.

Ayn Rand did write about the viros in her essay "The Anti-Industrial Revolution" (reprinted in her anthology now entitled The Return of the Primitive) long before most people saw what viros (then called the "ecology movement") were up to politically and philosophically in the 1970s. But even that essay is primarily philosophical and does not tell you who the organizations are, what they are doing in the politics of the real world and how -- most of which has taken place since she died. Learning and knowing what to do about it cannot be substituted with UN conspiracy theories about "them" while hysterically yelling "just fight".

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From AynRand.org;

Asked in a 1964 interview for Playboy magazine if she would "favor U.S. withdrawal from the United Nations," Ayn Rand answered:

"Yes. I do not sanction the grotesque pretense of an organization allegedly devoted to world peace and human rights, which includes Soviet Russia, the worst aggressor and bloodiest butcher in history, as one of its members. The notion of protecting rights, with Soviet Russia among the protectors, is an insult to the concept of rights and to the intelligence of any man who is asked to endorse or sanction such an organization. I do not believe that an individual should cooperate with criminals, and, for all the same reasons, I do not believe that free countries should cooperate with dictatorships."

Of course, one can substitute any tyrannical nation for the Soviet Union (though now under Putin they are back in that category)

To dismiss Agenda21 as strictly "conspiracy" is foolish. Anytime there is an attempt to usurp power in the UN, no matter what degreee, there ought ot be a red flag followed by a condemnation.

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The corruption and danger of the UN does not make every conspiracy theory about it true. Ayn Rand did not support an "Agenda 21" conspiracy theory or anything like it about the UN, or any such theory from the John Birch Society which was more prevalent at the time, or any other organization.

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ewv, who is talking about conspiracy theory? And who is saying that every conspiracy about the UN is true? Agenda 21 is a fact. There is no conspiracy. have you read the text of the resolution?

Via Wikipedia; The Republican Party platform for 2012 states that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty", while several state and local governments have considered or passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21.[12][13][14][15][3][16] Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21, while Arizona failed to pass a similar bill.[4]

Nobody is saying Ayn Rand supported conspiracy theories, that's common knowledge. She was anti-UN. What's more Agenda 21 is NOT a conspiracy theory, it is an actual UN plan trying to be implemented worldwide. There is no boogeyman here, just the UN doing their usual tyrannical BS.

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ewv, who is talking about conspiracy theory? And who is saying that every conspiracy about the UN is true? Agenda 21 is a fact. There is no conspiracy. have you read the text of the resolution?

Via Wikipedia; The Republican Party platform for 2012 states that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty", while several state and local governments have considered or passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21.[12][13][14][15][3][16] Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21, while Arizona failed to pass a similar bill.[4]

Nobody is saying Ayn Rand supported conspiracy theories, that's common knowledge. She was anti-UN. What's more Agenda 21 is NOT a conspiracy theory, it is an actual UN plan trying to be implemented worldwide. There is no boogeyman here, just the UN doing their usual tyrannical BS.

Well said. I'm glad to see someone here who understands how power questing people do their thing!

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ewv, who is talking about conspiracy theory?

You are. You picked up on slogans being uncritically circulated and assumed them to be true without knowing anything about the subject.

And who is saying that every conspiracy about the UN is true?

You have assumed that because the UN is bad then the "Agenda 21" conspiracy theory must be true.

Agenda 21 is a fact. There is no conspiracy. have you read the text of the resolution?

"Agenda 21" is not the "fact" that you claim it is. You leaped from some radicals' "resolution" parroted from the agenda of viro organizations like the Sierra Club and issued under a UN bureaucracy, to the falsehood that there is a "UN global plan" to implement it as if they had the authority to do it. Any person or group can bark out some "resolution". The UN cannot "give capacity to local governments to do what they want to people's property", let alone the rest of it, and "the UN" is not the source of the viro eco-fascist ideology. The UN is not driving the viro agenda.

Via Wikipedia; The Republican Party platform for 2012 states that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty", while several state and local governments have considered or passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21.[12][13][14][15][3][16] Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21, while Arizona failed to pass a similar bill.[4]

Quoting people afraid of global conspiracies does not mean that they exist. This garbage has been circulating for decades and only serves to distract attention away from the real problem and its actual source and means of implementation.

Nobody is saying Ayn Rand supported conspiracy theories, that's common knowledge. She was anti-UN. What's more Agenda 21 is NOT a conspiracy theory, it is an actual UN plan trying to be implemented worldwide. There is no boogeyman here, just the UN doing their usual tyrannical BS.

You should not be quoting Ayn Rand in support of conspiracy theories. Her opposing the UN does not mean that she would have supported this propaganda. Her articles should not be exploited in support of it.

If you want to oppose the viro anti-private property agenda then learn something about the viro lobbyists and what their government agencies with real power are doing. Look at what regulations and laws are being promoted and passed in Washington DC and state governments. First you have to know what is actually happening in the real world of politics and who is doing it. Tilting at windmills like "Agenda 21" by railing about "UN global plans" with hysterical empty slogans like "just fight" while not knowing what to do and doing nothing where action is taking place in politics or finding out what it is will not help you to stop them.

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Everybody:

Ayn Rand stated that Totalitarian states - run by people seeking POWER - rise on the claim of benefiting "the common good", which they never define, and consists in practice of harnessing the productive, looting the productive and murdering dissenters. Things people would never do for personal benefit, theft and murder they do to benefit - "the common good". It is a rubber phrase that can be taken to mean whatever the looter government power quester wants it to means. Observe "the common good" is the opposite motive here of "individual good", since active individuals get sacrificed, to benefit the power questers.

The issue and danger of Agenda 21 IS what is puzzling to you - it's vagueness. Like the phrase "the common good", it's danger, it's lethal effectiveness is it's ambiguity. It says it promotes the undefinable, the amorphous, the things that any local government official can state are benefited or harmed, according to THEIR determination. Who in heck can say what will "benefit future generations" (a "common good" concept)? It certainly, though, should not be a local government elected official Who knows what resources "ought to be conserved" (conserved for who? By who? Until when?). This law can be enforced to mean anything anyone can want it to mean - and that is the usual method of the people seeking power, to be used as a positive sounding justification for theft. Like the income tax and the Obamacare Mandate. All these things violate individual rights for "collective benefit". And it is done by using these types of vague, puzzling tactics, that are hard to comprehend, unless you identify the real motive: POWER. It is the power they are after now, that is all.

It is the vaguely defined and initial feeler of power questers, looking to see what they can get away with, and it is being done by power quester people at the UN to coordinate with power quester type people in local governments. They are slowly trying to see how much they can get away with, just like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Income Tax, Obamacare, government infringement on liberties by not law but "regulations" all started small and grew into the huge evil it is today.

You must catch on to their tactics. THIS IS their tactics. They have done nothing major or tangible yet. This is the first step to get to do so. Agenda 21.

BUT THEY WILL.

They start with the small and vague and harmless or fake positive sounding that gives you undefined power, and then spring something on people in small and larger steps backed up by it, until you have control. And while people (like some here, with all due respect) are scratching their heads wondering what is the motive of this, and what are they up to, you are not identifying the big thing they are up to: Agenda 21 gives people at the UN potential power at the local level!

THAT is what they are up to. As Ellsworth Toohey said "Don't try to analyze the incomprehensible. Just look at what it accomplishes."

Agenda 21 accomplishes United Nations influence over you at the local government level, which is the start step for a world government dictatorship. THAT is what they are up to. Sounds paranoid? Read the introduction to Anthem, and the whole book: "We have a local council, a national council, even a world council. If these do not hold total power over all our lives, is it from lack of intent?" - Ayn Rand. This kind of step is what Ayn Rand warned us about.

So what do you do about it?

Speak.

That is what you do.

Ring the alarm bells, tell people about it, and what they are up to, EXPLAIN it to others, as I am explaining it to you, so people don't sit there like victims waiting for victimization because the enemy is devious enough to use the same vague positive sounding tactics they usually use. "Common good", "Conservation", "Sustainable development", "benefit future generations". Tell your local tea party about it, discuss it with friends and family, get the word out. It's a power quester's evil methods!

Write an article for your local paper, blog about it, email this post to everyone you know. Do all that, do something, but fight!!!

And read this essay by Ayn Rand. And start getting savvy to the methods of our enemies:

"The Moral Basis of Individualism"

by Ayn Rand

Readers Digest, January 1944, pages 88 through 90

If some one comes into the room to impose some burden claimed to be for your good, then run. If someone comes into the room to impose some burden claimed to be for the Common Good, run faster.

ruveyn

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The viros want to impose it for the good of non-human nature. There is no where left to run.

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I encourage people to be more objective and stop spreading UN conspiracy theories. You are discrediting yourselves and creating a diversion from both the intellectual and political source of the problems.

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You can't make it clear that your conspiracy theory isn't a conspiracy theory. You are ignoring everything that has been explained to you and simply repeating yourself. Stop making simplistic pronouncements on a subject you know nothing about to people who have followed this topic for decades.

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ewv, how many more ways do we need to make it clear to you that Agenda 21 is NOT a conspiracy theory?

Ha ha. Well put.

You seemed to have missed the response. His insistent pronouncement is not "well put". It is the same repetitive, circularly argued, baseless UN conspiracy theory that it has always been, still promoted by those who know nothing about the source of the ideology in environmentalism or the political means they, not the UN, use to impose it, neither of which come from the UN black helicopters telling local governments what to do. This is supposed to be a forum for serious discussion, not juvenile "Ha Ha"s piling on as a substitute by those who have ignorantly jumped on a bandwagon they are attracted by extreme rhetoric.

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You seemed to have missed the response. His insistent pronouncement is not "well put". It is the same repetitive, circularly argued, baseless UN conspiracy theory that it has always been, still promoted by those who know nothing about the source of the ideology in environmentalism or the political means they, not the UN, use to impose it, neither of which come from the UN black helicopters telling local governments what to do.

Since it appears people are talking past each other, could you reiterate, ewv, why you think the discussion of Agenda 21 seems to be a conspiracy theory and what actually is causing the effects that the others are concerned about.

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You seemed to have missed the response. His insistent pronouncement is not "well put". It is the same repetitive, circularly argued, baseless UN conspiracy theory that it has always been, still promoted by those who know nothing about the source of the ideology in environmentalism or the political means they, not the UN, use to impose it, neither of which come from the UN black helicopters telling local governments what to do.

Since it appears people are talking past each other, could you reiterate, ewv, why you think the discussion of Agenda 21 seems to be a conspiracy theory and what actually is causing the effects that the others are concerned about.

I, too, would be interested in your evidence to support your hypothesis that we're all just wearing "tin foil hats" as well, ewv - for I have plenty of evidence that points in a decidedly different direction, some of which I have posted already. You've said we're all "conspiracy theorists" plenty of times, but I haven't seen you demonstrate that as of yet. Please do so.

Brad

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