Groovenstein

Improved personal hygiene

40 posts in this topic

Don't get the wrong impression. I take showers already. :blink:

I have a friend who used to work for Clinique. She's very skilled at personal maintenance and beautification. A couple weeks ago, she offered to give me a mild makeover, culturally appropriate for a man, and I accepted. By "culturally appropriate," I mean there was no face painting or anything, it was just some cleanup.

For as long as I can remember, I have bitten my nails regularly. She cleaned up the cuticles, filed, buffed, and all that, and showed me how to keep it up. I have done so, and have only occasionally bitten my nails. They still look tidy and shiny, not jagged and dull as before.

She also plucked my eyebrows and taught me how to keep it up. I've kept up on that, too. And the improved daily facial care (I now use a clarifying lotion and moisturizer).

Let me tell you, men, it feels great and healthy to pay attention to the very small things like nails, skin, and eyebrows. Ladies, if you have tips for easy, masculine hygiene, please share them! If you can get all dolled up, we can spend just a few minutes a day having better skin and cleaner nails. Some men are listening! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And the improved daily facial care (I now use a clarifying lotion and moisturizer).
What are those two things good for?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The clarifying lotion smooths the skin out by removing dead flakes. Basically it's a gentle exfoliator. The moisturizer, well, moisturizes. Before both of those, you wash.

So you wash to clean the gunk out, you clarify to eliminate dead skin and smooth your face out, and then you're ready to moisturize.

After you do that, you sit there and smile at how much better your face looks and feels and you only spent a couple minutes. :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Congratualtions, Groovenstein. Nothing is sexier than a man who obviously cares for himself.

Don't forget to exfoliate and moisterize your lips as well! It's an often forgotten or avoided part of daily clensing, but is skin all the same. Just give it a bit of a rub with an old tooth brush to exfoliate and don't forget to wipe over it while you're moisterizing the rest of your face. I use Neutrogena all the time and though it may feel funny at first, there's no reason to worry about it getting in your mouth as long as you're not shoving it down in there. :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am too scared to pluck eyebrows, not so much the pain, but the look.

I am a male. I see the sense in taking care of my skin though, I'll look into it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After you do that, you sit there and smile at how much better your face looks and feels and you only spent a couple minutes. :)

Why only your face?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What's next? Shaving our legs and chest? :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hehe, male hygiene is one of those things that should *always* be taken care of - but never to excess. Nothing is grosser than clumpy, tangled hair or yellow nails. But don't shave legs. Makes a guy look like he's trying to pass himself off as a girl .... :)

Exfoliate skin, have tidy hands and face as much as possible, combed hair, no chapped lips (don't want to be kissing sandpaper :) ) and for some guys a mild tan are the big things I can think of. :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why only your face?

Because that's all my friend recommended. :blink:

If I remember to, I will ask her why she focused on more thorough cleaning of the face. Maybe it produces more oils because it's exposed to the sun all day, and thus requires more thorough cleaning than the rest of the body, for which a daily body wash (some of which have exfoliants) suffices?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am too scared to pluck eyebrows, not so much the pain, but the look.

Let me tell you, the pain is a serious consideration. :blink:

In re the look, remember that you don't have go uber-thin or anything. If you have larger eyebrows and prefer to keep them that way, you can do that while still giving them a minor plucking in order to give them a tidier, more defined look.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Only if you become a professional swimmer. :blink:

What a drag that is!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would agree that male hygiene is very attractive and should be part of a daily routine just as brushing ones teeth.

Groovenstein, that's great that you've taken such a liking to the whole exfoliation and toning/moisturizing process :)

At the salon I work at some men come in regularily for manicures, and on occasion pedicures. The only time men come in for waxing is if they have excess hair on their back, and sometimes to shape eyebrows.

I once knew someone who shaved his arms legs and underarms. It was very unattractive to me, I never really knew why he did it except for the appearance :)

In re the look, remember that you don't have go uber-thin or anything. If you have larger eyebrows and prefer to keep them that way, you can do that while still giving them a minor plucking in order to give them a tidier, more defined look.

There are options! Tweezing excess hair is definitely tha main choice and one that you can do at home. But, as with most things, best left to a prfessional because there is a specific way to tweeze hair. Another option that one of my male client favours is a treatment called "Threading". Here's a link: http://www.hairfacts.com/methods/threading.html

Another option is waxing which is pretty much like a big bandaid, in as much that that is how long the pain will last. But the great advantage is that if kept up, the follicle will deaden and hair will grow much finer if at all in that area. I've been tweezing my eyebrows for years and not much hair grows there at all. I'm just left with a nice shape I have to maintain infrequently.

no chapped lips (don't want to be kissing sandpaper )

Agreed!! :D

I am too scared to pluck eyebrows, not so much the pain, but the look.

Why are you afraid of the look? If you get your eyebrows shaped, you won't necessarily have thin eyebrows or ones that look feminine. It's just mainly to clean them up, to remove the stray hairs that aren't a part of the main shape of the brow. Don't be afraid! :blink:

~C~

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Over five years ago I was walking through a local mall when a gentleman came up to me and asked if I would like to do some modeling for his company. I thought the person was full of it and was very skeptical of him. He invited me to his office and set up for me to meet the director of the modeling agency. I agreed and did some quick research on his company to find out if he and the company were legite, they were.

Soon after agreeing to work with this company they came with an offer for a spa commercial for a local casino. The spa wanted to have a "thirtysomething" couple being shown enjoying a weekend getaway. The modeling agency had one request, that the male have a shaved body in most viewable areas. I thought this over and agreed, as hair will most times grow back and it was worth the money.

Five years later and I still do not have any hair, but now it is because I find it esthetically pleasing. I like the fact that without the hair I can see every muscle and its movement along with many more reasons. I almost always wear a shirt and pants so it is not for anyone else's pleasure except mine and possibly my wifes.

Yes, mans nature is to have hair on his body. I do not see body hair as a fundamental characteristic but instead see it as an inconsequential trait. I also do not think going hairless as trying to look femine, as again I find it esthetically pleasing.

Sure, many people might laugh at me for my choice, but I think it enhances my look and my concern is what matters to me most.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't shave my body, but I barely have any body hair anyway. On my arms and chest and such areas the hair I have is similar to the very fine hairs most women have on their body, and you can barely see them. Also, the hair is blonde in color so that makes it much less noticable than darker colors; it barely stands out against my skin tone. The only place where I could see shaving have much effect is on my legs, as I do have some hair there and it's longer and thicker than elsewhere on my body, and it's also a much darker color.

I haven't really considered doing it, though. It's one of the areas where I am neutral. I don't really like or dislike the hair being there, it's just part of my body and I'm used to seeing it. If it offers many benefits to get it shaved it might be something worth looking into, but at this point I just don't know..

I think the spirit of the topic is very worthy, though. I agree that it's important to take care of your body and little things as have already been mentioned make a big difference :blink:

I think I will look into shaping my eyebrows. If removing some of the hairs that grow in random spots helps give them more definition then I think it would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing, and it's always a good thing to enjoy looking in the mirror :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am too scared to pluck eyebrows, not so much the pain, but the look.

I am a male. I see the sense in taking care of my skin though, I'll look into it.

If you're interested but don't want to chance it yourself, the next time you get a haircut you could always ask the stylist about cleaning and/or shaping your brows, and they might be able to set up an appointment for you. That is, unless you go to a barber, I don't think they have the kind of service something like Great Clips would. But I don't think men in general should worry about shaping. A thick dark brow on a man can be very handsome. :blink:

Let me tell you, the pain is a serious consideration. :)

If you do it yourself, I find it less painful if you do it after a hot shower.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
If you do it yourself, I find it less painful if you do it after a hot shower.

Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot! The girls with whom I've spoken have also told me that after a while you don't even feel it anymore. I wonder if repeated shock over a long period of time kills the nerves.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot! The girls with whom I've spoken have also told me that after a while you don't even feel it anymore. I wonder if repeated shock over a long period of time kills the nerves.
From plucking various rogue hairs over many years, I've just become used to it altogether. Where it used to hurt a lot, now I don't really notice it, even in places I've never plucked before. :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Let me tell you, the pain is a serious consideration. :blink:

hehe, it doesn't hurt that bad. In my experience, it only hurts the first few times you do it. If you maintain a waxed or plucked area, I guess the nerves there deaden to feeling the hair - I'm not the person to ask there. But I have been waxing/plucking my eyebrows since I was about 10 years old (the curse of being part Italian... :) ) and I can pluck the hair there now without even wincing. :)

What a drag that is!!

LOL :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, mans nature is to have hair on his body. I do not see body hair as a fundamental characteristic but instead see it as an inconsequential trait. I also do not think going hairless as trying to look femine, as again I find it esthetically pleasing.

Sure, many people might laugh at me for my choice, but I think it enhances my look and my concern is what matters to me most.

A couple years ago on the "Queer Eye" program the topic of male body hair was addressed with a particularly hirsute young man. The esthetician member of the "Fab Five" suggested he trim his body hair, but not necessarily shave it off completely. I believe the (tongue in cheek) term he used was "manscaping."

Leaving aside all the jokes, I think there was esthetic merit in the suggestion, not so the guy would resemble a primped gay man, but so that he would appear to take good care of himself. In conversations I've had with Betsy Speicher in the past (and my apologies to her if I am incorrect), she told me women like for a man to take care of himself by way of good hygiene, but they do not necessarily care if the man is a fashion plate. In other words, well cared for, but not a dandy.

I personally have never had to "manscape," but I can see good reasons for doing so, especially if the man is like an overgrown lawn.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hmmm... as for eyebrows, I've always thought the hair there is to serve a purpose - keeping grit and dirt and other bad things out of eyes. :blink: (So I figure it's good to keep what I have - evolution has no doubt provided me with "just the right amount" of eyebrows.) And, I've never thought large or thick eyebrows look out-of-place on a man; besides, I kind of like the Edward Teller look. :)

And notice that some emoticons have eyebrows: :):D :D

But some do not: :D:) :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
In conversations I've had with Betsy Speicher in the past (and my apologies to her if I am incorrect), she told me women like for a man to take care of himself by way of good hygiene, but they do not necessarily care if the man is a fashion plate.

That's true. Also, whether or not a man is handsome is less important to a woman than whether or not a woman is beautiful is important to a man. That is because men are more turned on by a woman's looks, at first, while women are mostly attracted to a man's character.

As a result, she is less interested in whether he is tall or has a handsome face and more attentive to the volitional aspects of his appearance that indicate pride in his body, the desire to make the most of what he has, that he is in control of himself, etc. As a result, she is looking for a man who is clean, neat, smells nice, has good posture, etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are plenty of manly men that are cyclists that shave their legs. Apparantly it helps alot it against severe road burn.

Personally, I wouldn't bother shaving my legs if I could get away with it. If it wasn't for Gillette it wouldn't even be a socially imposed thing on woman in this country. (I believe it was a huge marketing campaign back in the early 1900s to sell more razors.)

Groove, good for you if it makes you look and feel better. Regarding hygiene for a man or a woman, as long as either is clean and well kept I don't think it really matters.

Unless the guy starts smelling like a girl...then you cross over into Metrosexual territory...you should at least be able to smell the difference between a guy and a girl if your eyes are closed hahah.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are plenty of manly men that are cyclists that shave their legs. Apparantly it helps alot it against severe road burn.

Makes perfect sense. I have no problem with men shaving legs even for aesthetic reasons. I just happen to be a member of the sex for which our culture doesn't require shaven legs, so I don't. :blink: If I have a girlfriend in the future, if she asked me to do it, I imagine I would.

Unless the guy starts smelling like a girl...then you cross over into Metrosexual territory...you should at least be able to smell the difference between a guy and a girl if your eyes are closed hahah.

Fear not. My Armani White isn't going anywhere. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Another thing, men, you can look into for nail health is clear nail polish with a strengthener. If your nails are already healthy, then it's probably not necessary. Apparently it helps me because I don't have enough calcium in my diet (which supposedly was indicated by the small ridges I used to have on my nails). And it's really not noticeable at all. Makes your nails slightly shinier, but that's about it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites