Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post I didn't realize that a rise in temperature could lead to war.YahooGore called the award meaningful because of his co-winner, calling the IPCC the "world's pre-eminent scientific body devoted to improving our understanding of the climate crisis." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post I didn't realize that a rise in temperature could lead to war.YahooGore called the award meaningful because of his co-winner, calling the IPCC the "world's pre-eminent scientific body devoted to improving our understanding of the climate crisis."Slightly off the point, but may UK education authorities have decided to force pupils to watch Gore's propaganda.One of the governors from an affected school (governors in the UK are like the PTA) objected on the basis that this was highly politicised and disputed. True to form the education authority ignored him, and he ended up taking them to court at a cost of some £200,000 of his own money.He won. The judge found there to be significant errors of fact in the film, and it was a breach of the education act. He was awarded costs. What a noble fellow.Further true to form, our government declared the film was valuable and encouraged everyone to watch it.The last government I can remember doing something like this was the German government of the 1930's when children were encouraged to watch vile lying filth like "The Eternal Jew" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post One of the governors from an affected school (governors in the UK are like the PTA) objected on the basis that this was highly politicised and disputed. True to form the education authority ignored him, and he ended up taking them to court at a cost of some £200,000 of his own money.He won. The judge found there to be significant errors of fact in the film, and it was a breach of the education act. He was awarded costs. What a noble fellow.The courts in Australia have ruled along similar lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post In response to this movie, my father (a meteorologist for the city we live in) had a "fire side" chat, for fifteen minutes, on the 10:00 p.m. news, about the falsehoods of global warming. He gave people the real facts, and the real truth. It's actually one of his most famous broadcasts, having been received with warm accolades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post I didn't realize that a rise in temperature could lead to war.It comes from heated arguments and people getting hot under the collar. Remember what happend in the Japanese Empire of the Rising Sun? They no longer recognize solar activity so now it's the Empire of Human Caused Globulwarming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post That gives him tremendous credentials to pretend to the Democratic candidature - I wonder if he's going to go for it. I also wonder if I should be scared about that (i.e., what is the worst case scenario - Hillary or Gore?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post Well that's the state of our intellectuals today.Remember, Hitler was Time Magazine's Man of the Year for 1938.*sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post Funny. I'm one those individuals who sees the receipt of a Nobel Yasser Arafat Memorial Peace Prize to be a distinct disqualification for the office of the President of the United States . . . and most everything else besides.Mr. Gore's receiving the prize is a perfect fit for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post Funny. I'm one those individuals who sees the receipt of a Nobel Yasser Arafat Memorial Peace Prize to be a distinct disqualification for the office of the President of the United States . . . and most everything else besides.Mr. Gore's receiving the prize is a perfect fit for him.If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, it's the man who invented the internet and protected us against ManBearPig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post ... and protected us against ManBearPig.I tip my hat to that obscure cultural reference! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off.Nope. Bill Clinton hasn't gotten his award yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off.Nope. Bill Clinton hasn't gotten his award yet.Not sure Slick Willie is worse than Gore. Given the current Democratic lineup, I'm starting to feel quite nostalgic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off.It would surely be easy to line up a rogue's gallery of headshots of those winners, particularly the most vile of them, I wonder if that's been done, just to perceptually demonstrate the nature of the prize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, it's the man who invented the internet and protected us against ManBearPig. ManBearPig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off.Without sounding like an emotionally captivated enthusiast, if ever there was anyone who deserves the prize for peace, it is Ayn Rand. Her ideas would lead to the most peaceful life imaginable, they were ever implemented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post ManBearPig Extremely funny and right on target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 12 Oct 2007 · Report post Gore = Nobel Prize? I'm going to throw up.The judge found there to be significant errors of fact in the filmThe nine major errors (lies) are listed here:http://newparty.co.uk/articles/inaccuracies-gore.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2007 · Report post This is something I wrote on my blog a few days ago: My world-wearied and cynical response to the reality that Al Gore will get a Nobel Prize was: so what.Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter have received Noble Peace prizes, it’s not like Al Gore can disgrace the tradition anymore.For those that don’t know, Yasser Arafat received the honorary award because he promised to stop killing people in Israel; Jimmy Carter’s award was slightly less dubious, he paid off people like Yasser Arafat to stop attacking our allies (of coarse, he supported evil regimes to do so.)What has Al Gore done to truly receive this award; the answer is, not much. He made a documentary about something that will likely be forgotten in twenty years (when its replaced with the next environmental catastrophe.) His actions as the vice-president weren’t spectacular; neither are his actions on any front; in fact, he seems downright hypocritical in many aspects of his life.This reveals a fundamental flaw in the current Nobel system: even if Al Gore is right about everything, and has lived consistently with his own beliefs; the Nobel prize is supposed to celebrate what people have done, not what they will or might accomplish, the award is not supposed to honer intentions.It’s a shame, that the Nobel Prize is handed out so lightly, and all to support blatantly political ends. These actions demean all those who truly deserve the prize; those who, through their actions, have done real good in the world.Though it should come to no surprise, politics corrupts everything. The Nobel prize, in any field, is supposed to celebrate the greatest and the truly exceptional. I suppose even this goal couldn’t help but be tainted by the grey weight of today’s political climate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2007 · Report post The Nobel Prizes. For years I've always had in the back of my mind the idea that achievement has never been what the Nobel Prizes celebrate. Maybe at the beginning they were, but not over the past several decades. Not that there haven't been actual achievers who have been awarded the Prize. But the standard of judgment when awarding the prize, it seems to me, has for a long time been: "contribution" (without bothering to define what actually constitutes a "contribution"), and, very often, sacrifice (again, no criteria regarding whom or what to which someone sacrifices). So what you have achieved--that benefits others, or "benefits" the earth--is what's honored. But whether what you have achieved has objective value is completely and totally irrelevant. By the vague and undefined standard of the Nobel Prize honor, Al Gore deserves it, even though he is lying (by using statistical truth selectively). If the Nobel Prize is ever finally discredited in people's eyes, Al Gore will wish he hadn't won it. It's like winning an award from the Mafia. I always find it amusing--and often sickening--how often the Nobel Prize for Literature is an indicator of the altruistic motives of the Nobel Prize society. If you look at a list of writers who have won the award, you will see so many individuals from obscure little countries who were given the honor--which comes with many thousands of dollars--because they happened to be the only writer that little country had. You read stuff like: "The Nobel Prize Committee has awarded Alberto Matsuomu Umbokwu the Nobel Prize for having brought the literature of Ogo into the fabric of world literature." (The standard of value in such a case is the survival of the literature of Ogo, not a given literary work's objective merit.) It's truly nauseating. Because of the vague, altruistic standards of the Nobel Prize "honor", and everything it stands for today, Ayn Rand, if awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature, would have declined it in a heartbeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2007 · Report post I think it is not as bad with regards to the Nobel Prizes in the physical sciences. We had a list of Nobel prize posters at school and most of the ones related to Chemistry and Medicine did reward very interesting and promising scientific breakthroughs. So I wouldn't say that this disqualifies all categories of the Nobel Prize. It is mainly the ones in the humanities and the Peace prize that are just... well... useless at best.Does anyone know if the same committee awards these things for all the categories, or do they have different people evaluating the work done in every field there's a Nobel prize for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2007 · Report post Does anyone know if the same committee awards these things for all the categories, or do they have different people evaluating the work done in every field there's a Nobel prize for?http://nobelprize.org/prize_awarders/The Nobel Prize AwardersWho selects the Nobel Laureates? In his last will and testament, Alfred Nobel specifically designated the institutions responsible for the prizes he wished to be established: The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for the Nobel Prize in Physics and Chemistry, Karolinska Institute for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, the Swedish Academy for the Nobel Prize in Literature, and a Committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Parliament (Storting) for the Nobel Peace Prize. In 1968, the Sveriges Riksbank established the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economics in Memory of Alfred Nobel. The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences was given the task to select the Economics Prize Laureates starting in 1969. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2007 · Report post If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, it's the man who invented the internet and protected us against ManBearPig. ManBearPig Definitely one of my favorite South Park's. It capture's Gore perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2007 · Report post Letter sent to a dozen newspapers:To the Editor:Junk science alarmist Al Gore, who must have skipped class the day they taught how Ice Ages come and go, and the earth naturally warms up in between--now joins the illustrious ranks of Nobel "Peace" Prize winners or nominees, alongside mass murderer Yasser Arafat, pusillanimous appeaser Jimmy Carter ("I never met an anti-American dictator I didn't like!"), and Adolph Hitler (nominated for the Peace Prize, but for some reason didn't win).Could it be that "global warming" is the Left's latest pretense to attack Western civilization, they're just itching to throttle the economy and detroy your future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2007 · Report post If past winners Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter didn't thoroughly discredit the Peace Prize, maybe Al Gore will finish it off.Nope. Bill Clinton hasn't gotten his award yet.And that has been my only consolation in all of this muck. This has got to be like that worm that enters the ear and eats the brain for Bill Clinton. If you are listing outrages to one's sense of right over who has received the Peace Prize, don't forget to list Le Doc Toh and Kissinger for the "Peace Accords" that led to years of death, reeducation camps, and boat people--and an "honorable" withdrawal of troops from Viet Nam for the U.S. Der Spiegel dubbed Gore a political super-star that was now too good for the American presidency. Maybe Hillary could name him as her running-mate. He has job experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites