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Elements of Fascism?

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I have had no real time to post lately, but I do want to ask this one question:

I have heard it stated that Objectivism, especially as portrayed in Atlas Shrugged, contains elements of Fascism.

This could be as simple as associated Ayn Rand with conservatism, and conservatism with fascism (which is often done); But I hear it so often, especially on college campuses, that I was wondering if there was some more elaborate logic to justify it.

Are there any intelligent anti-Objectivists that have claimed this? And if so, Who? And Why?

-Ryan

P.S. – I ask this because, for the life of me, I can’t understand how Objectivism can be correlated with fascism. I even went looking for it; there are some metaphorical passages in Atlas Shrugged that could be misconstrued, but that’s about it.

Perhaps it’s just my definition of fascism, or theirs. Any thoughts?

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Perhaps it’s just my definition of fascism, or theirs. Any thoughts?

Ask them to define what they mean.

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I have had no real time to post lately, but I do want to ask this one question:

I have heard it stated that Objectivism, especially as portrayed in Atlas Shrugged, contains elements of Fascism.

. . . .

Are there any intelligent anti-Objectivists that have claimed this? And if so, Who? And Why?

. . . .

Perhaps it’s just my definition of fascism, or theirs. Any thoughts?

Anyone who would claim that Objectivism and Fascism are in any way synonymous or that they share certain "elements" (i) understands neither Fascism nor Objectivism, or (ii) understands all too well the unbridgeable difference between them and wants to ensure that you never discover it or make you doubt your certainty of it.

In my view, the so-called "intelligent" anti-Objectivists belong to the latter group almost exclusively and include pretty much all of today's academic history, philosophy, economics, sociology, political science, etc., luminaries. Almost to a man, these individuals have invested heavily in advocating for the myth of Socialism (of which one variation is Fascism). Almost to a man, the very idea of the sovereignty of the individual and of the individual's mind, central to the philosophy of Objectivism, is anathema to them. Almost to a man, they are counting on the ignorance of individuals who belong to the first group above, those who understand neither Fascism nor Objectivism, to sanction and further their agenda.

The intellectual slights of hand involved in falsely referring to Fascism as the opposite of Socialism and to Objectivist ideas as "Fascistic" comes straight out of the Stalinist era in which that monster-Comrade took to referring to anyone, including other Socialists, who failed to follow to the letter Moscow's directives as Fascist. He even went so far as to refer to former associate Trotsky as a Fascist which, though not so far from the truth, wasn't his point. Stalin was aided in this tactic by the peculiar, racialist monstrousness of fellow-Socialist Hitler's Final Solution (Hitler's racialism was a non-essential aspect of a definition for Fascism, incidentally, the truth of which Stalin was perfectly aware), and the Nazi Holocaust was the convenient hook upon which to hang the trick and thereby veil the true horror of his own ideas. It has stuck ever since.

But it isn't only Communists and hard-left Socialists who employ/ed this tactic. Whittaker Chambers, the "former" Communist who became a voice of so-called "Conservatism" in the U.S., relied upon it as well, most famously in his horrid "review" of Atlas Shrugged. For these individuals -- many of whom really ARE Fascists in a true sense -- the tactic serves, as it did for Stalin, as a means to divert attention away from the horrible reality of their own ideology.

When people hurl the word "Fascist" or "Fascism" about today, more often than not they are egaging in what I believe can be referred to as the fallacy of the Frozen Abstraction in which memories of Nazism and the singular horror of the Nazi Holocaust have been substituted for a proper definition of the words used. And like magic, anyone who disagrees with one's own ideas, however slightly, is cast as the bogeyman Nazi and -- Presto -- truth becomes the victim.

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I have had no real time to post lately, but I do want to ask this one question:

I have heard it stated that Objectivism, especially as portrayed in Atlas Shrugged, contains elements of Fascism.

This could be as simple as associated Ayn Rand with conservatism, and conservatism with fascism (which is often done); But I hear it so often, especially on college campuses, that I was wondering if there was some more elaborate logic to justify it.

Are there any intelligent anti-Objectivists that have claimed this? And if so, Who? And Why?

-Ryan

P.S. – I ask this because, for the life of me, I can’t understand how Objectivism can be correlated with fascism. I even went looking for it; there are some metaphorical passages in Atlas Shrugged that could be misconstrued, but that’s about it.

Perhaps it’s just my definition of fascism, or theirs. Any thoughts?

An excellent article on how and why the "right" is equated with fascism is discussed in " 'Extremism,' or the Art of Smearing," in Capitalism the Unknown Ideal.

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Fascism is a form of collectivism. It places the group above the individual. The political philosophy of Objectivism supports individualism and individual rights, which means that the individual is autonomous and does not have to bow to the state. Objectivism is the diametric opposite to fascism.

Of course, multiculturalism is also a form of collectivism, a racist form at that. So, if that charge is coming from leftists, then it's utterly laughable in the extreme.

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Fascism is a form of collectivism. It places the group above the individual. The political philosophy of Objectivism supports individualism and individual rights, which means that the individual is autonomous and does not have to bow to the state. Objectivism is the diametric opposite to fascism.

Of course, multiculturalism is also a form of collectivism, a racist form at that. So, if that charge is coming from leftists, then it's utterly laughable in the extreme.

Please read Dr. Peikoff's book The Ominous Parallels for a detailed treatment of nazism and fascism. I reviewed it on Amazon.com here: http://www.amazon.com/review/product/04520...iewpoints=1;the title of my review is "Expose of the Philosophy Behind Nazism."

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