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Obama + Ayers the Terrorist

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Does anyone know how many people Ayer's so called terrorist group actually killed?

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See the .pdf file, linked to in an earlier post. As I recall, Obama's buddies murdered 3 people:

a policeman in California, killed by a pipe bomb; and two security guards gunned down on the east coast.

As you might expect from self-hating leftists, they were incompetent: two of them blew themselves up in a Greenwich Village apartment while working on bombs (they were getting ready to bomb an officers' dance at a military base).

William Ayers for Attorney General, anyone?

Bernadine Dohrn for Secretary of Education?

STOP THE BASTARDS!

HOW MANY LETTERS TO THE EDITOR HAVE YOU SENT?

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Also at Little Green Footballs:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31...de_of_Americans

Bill Ayers' Terrorist Group Discussed Genocide of Americans

Politics | Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:14:17 pm PST

Former FBI informant Larry Grathwohl infiltrated the Weather Underground and helped prevent several bombing attacks by the group. In this clip from the 1982 documentary No Place to Hide, Grathwohl describes a Weather Underground meeting at which the terrorists discussed the need to murder at least 25 million people—those diehard American capitalists who would resist “reeducation.”

This last one is unbelievably creepy to watch...

It is a shocking dose of reality that this is what's to be expected from the highest elite academics in American Universities if they faithfully follow the ideas to their end.

In the world of ideas, universities seem like the caves of Afghanistan, where barbaric savages wait in isolation until the time is right to come out and attack. It's really disturbing to see how higher education looks like more of a socialist "re-education" center than anything else... :blink:

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See the .pdf file, linked to in an earlier post. As I recall, Obama's buddies murdered 3 people:

a policeman in California, killed by a pipe bomb; and two security guards gunned down on the east coast.

As you might expect from self-hating leftists, they were incompetent: two of them blew themselves up in a Greenwich Village apartment while working on bombs (they were getting ready to bomb an officers' dance at a military base).

Was it incompetence or the fact that the bombings were always announced in advance allowing people to evacuate before the bomb went off? If my memory is correct, there was an unpopular war with a military draft providing the flesh being destroyed in the meat grinder known as Vietnam. I also believe around this period of time blacks had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains. I wasn't alive at the time, but that is what I have read.

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This is fantastic!

Republican Congress Woman from Minnesota, Michelle Bachmann.

She is great. She has her facts down on Obama and his associations and won’t give an inch to Chris Matthews in this interview:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27243547#27243547

I can't get it to play. It just stalls and then skips to the next clip. :blink:

I found it on youtube. I don't know if it's the complete version.

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See the .pdf file, linked to in an earlier post. As I recall, Obama's buddies murdered 3 people:

a policeman in California, killed by a pipe bomb; and two security guards gunned down on the east coast.

As you might expect from self-hating leftists, they were incompetent: two of them blew themselves up in a Greenwich Village apartment while working on bombs (they were getting ready to bomb an officers' dance at a military base).

Was it incompetence or the fact that the bombings were always announced in advance allowing people to evacuate before the bomb went off?

The ones who blew themselves up were incompetent and their victims who were killed were not saved by a "warning". The Weather Underground has since claimed that they were "only" destroying "property", not people. If so, were not the murderers then also incompetent for that? Why do you think they always announced bombs so people could evacuate and what difference would it make? They were terrorists who were progressively becoming more extreme and more destructive.

If my memory is correct, there was an unpopular war with a military draft providing the flesh being destroyed in the meat grinder known as Vietnam.

What does that have to do with the terrorists? Yes there was an unpopular war and the draft did not end until 1973. There had been enormous outrage at the draft and the New Left actively exploited that to gain sympathy for its own agenda. They were primarily hoping for and expecting a socialist revolution, and they opposed the draft because they opposed the war because they wanted the communists to win. Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers were communists. Nothing they did was justified by opposition to the war and the draft. The New Left was never opposed to a "draft" in service to a socialist state.

I also believe around this period of time blacks had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains. I wasn't alive at the time, but that is what I have read.

What does that have to do with these terrorists? The civil rights movement against racism in the south culminating in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was well before the controversy over Vietnam and the draft. The Civil Rights Act did not end all personal acts of racism, but the era of racial bus seating, bathrooms, water fountains, etc. was essentially over long before Ayers and the Weather Underground went on their binge. The Communists had for decades exploited racism in America for their own ends and the Weather Underground still doing it in the 1970s was typical of that. "Civil rights" was not what the New Left terrorism, riots, taking over university buildings, etc. was about. They were not 'misguided idealists' fighting for freedom.

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This is fantastic!

Republican Congress Woman from Minnesota, Michelle Bachmann.

She is great. She has her facts down on Obama and his associations and won’t give an inch to Chris Matthews in this interview:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27243547#27243547

Strong but not deep. She didn't give an inch but neither did she have anything to say in direct answers to his questions about liberalism, the left, and anti-Americanism. Then there is this one on "Fool for Christ" about how God led her to her husband, Christian law school, and Congress.

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See the .pdf file, linked to in an earlier post. As I recall, Obama's buddies murdered 3 people:

a policeman in California, killed by a pipe bomb; and two security guards gunned down on the east coast.

As you might expect from self-hating leftists, they were incompetent: two of them blew themselves up in a Greenwich Village apartment while working on bombs (they were getting ready to bomb an officers' dance at a military base).

Was it incompetence or the fact that the bombings were always announced in advance allowing people to evacuate before the bomb went off?

The ones who blew themselves up were incompetent and their victims who were killed were not saved by a "warning". The Weather Underground has since claimed that they were "only" destroying "property", not people. If so, were not the murderers then also incompetent for that? Why do you think they always announced bombs so people could evacuate and what difference would it make? They were terrorists who were progressively becoming more extreme and more destructive.

If my memory is correct, there was an unpopular war with a military draft providing the flesh being destroyed in the meat grinder known as Vietnam.

What does that have to do with the terrorists? Yes there was an unpopular war and the draft did not end until 1973. There had been enormous outrage at the draft and the New Left actively exploited that to gain sympathy for its own agenda. They were primarily hoping for and expecting a socialist revolution, and they opposed the draft because they opposed the war because they wanted the communists to win. Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers were communists. Nothing they did was justified by opposition to the war and the draft. The New Left was never opposed to a "draft" in service to a socialist state.

I also believe around this period of time blacks had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains. I wasn't alive at the time, but that is what I have read.

What does that have to do with these terrorists? The civil rights movement against racism in the south culminating in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was well before the controversy over Vietnam and the draft. The Civil Rights Act did not end all personal acts of racism, but the era of racial bus seating, bathrooms, water fountains, etc. was essentially over long before Ayers and the Weather Underground went on their binge. The Communists had for decades exploited racism in America for their own ends and the Weather Underground still doing it in the 1970s was typical of that. "Civil rights" was not what the New Left terrorism, riots, taking over university buildings, etc. was about. They were not 'misguided idealists' fighting for freedom.

(Bold is mine.)

I am attempting to determine the proper context. I believe their is a blatant attempt to create a package deal between Ayers, the Weather Underground and radical Islam. Than there is an attempt to smuggle in Obama's association with these groups and than somehow link him to radical Islam. I'm not buying it. Neither should you.

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I am attempting to determine the proper context. I believe their is a blatant attempt to create a package deal between Ayers, the Weather Underground and radical Islam. Than there is an attempt to smuggle in Obama's association with these groups and than somehow link him to radical Islam. I'm not buying it. Neither should you.

I've never seen any reference to Ayers in that context, though if you can provde some I'd be interested in checking them out. However, Ayers himself being a terrorst is bad enough, and connections between Obama and Islamists are documented elsewhere with no need for Ayers to be part of it.

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NEVER FORGET -- in 1995 Obama went to self-described communists Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers of the Weather Underground: two terrorists who set bombs, and sheltered their comrades on the lam who killed a police officer with a pipe bomb and gunned down two security guards. Other comrades of theirs were not present, having been killed while packing a bomb with nails, intended for an officers' dance at a U.S. military base.

Obama went to the terrorists, shook their hands, and asked them to support his first run for public office. And they saw in him a kindred spirit, with values similar to their own.

THAT tells you all you need to know about him. Even without his Marxist mentors and friendship with a P.L.O. fundraiser.

NEVER FORGET. Throw it in the bastard's teeth, every chance you get! Tell everyone you know.

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See the .pdf file, linked to in an earlier post. As I recall, Obama's buddies murdered 3 people:

a policeman in California, killed by a pipe bomb; and two security guards gunned down on the east coast.

As you might expect from self-hating leftists, they were incompetent: two of them blew themselves up in a Greenwich Village apartment while working on bombs (they were getting ready to bomb an officers' dance at a military base).

Was it incompetence or the fact that the bombings were always announced in advance allowing people to evacuate before the bomb went off?

The ones who blew themselves up were incompetent and their victims who were killed were not saved by a "warning". The Weather Underground has since claimed that they were "only" destroying "property", not people. If so, were not the murderers then also incompetent for that? Why do you think they always announced bombs so people could evacuate and what difference would it make? They were terrorists who were progressively becoming more extreme and more destructive.

If my memory is correct, there was an unpopular war with a military draft providing the flesh being destroyed in the meat grinder known as Vietnam.

What does that have to do with the terrorists? Yes there was an unpopular war and the draft did not end until 1973. There had been enormous outrage at the draft and the New Left actively exploited that to gain sympathy for its own agenda. They were primarily hoping for and expecting a socialist revolution, and they opposed the draft because they opposed the war because they wanted the communists to win. Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers were communists. Nothing they did was justified by opposition to the war and the draft. The New Left was never opposed to a "draft" in service to a socialist state.

I also believe around this period of time blacks had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains. I wasn't alive at the time, but that is what I have read.

What does that have to do with these terrorists? The civil rights movement against racism in the south culminating in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was well before the controversy over Vietnam and the draft. The Civil Rights Act did not end all personal acts of racism, but the era of racial bus seating, bathrooms, water fountains, etc. was essentially over long before Ayers and the Weather Underground went on their binge. The Communists had for decades exploited racism in America for their own ends and the Weather Underground still doing it in the 1970s was typical of that. "Civil rights" was not what the New Left terrorism, riots, taking over university buildings, etc. was about. They were not 'misguided idealists' fighting for freedom.

(Bold is mine.)

I am attempting to determine the proper context. I believe their is a blatant attempt to create a package deal between Ayers, the Weather Underground and radical Islam. Than there is an attempt to smuggle in Obama's association with these groups and than somehow link him to radical Islam. I'm not buying it. Neither should you.

The "package deal" is your own 'bold' equivocation between 1960s New Left terrorists and "Islam". Such chains of equivocations are rationalism, not "blatant attempts" by those you misrepresent. There is not need to "determine the proper context"; the context is the well-known actions and motives of the New Left, which cannot be excused by appeals to "civil rights" and the "Vietnam War". It had nothing to do with where people once sat on a bus. Apologetics for the actions of the New Left such as those by Dorn and Ayers in the name of a "proper context" are reprehensible. If you misunderstood the nature of Ayers, Dorn and other New Left 'protesters' in the late 1960s and early 1970s, that has been explained to you, but you ignored it. They were not 'misguided idealists' and "Islam" has nothing to do with it.

Aside from Obama's alliances with Marxist activists like Dorn and Ayers, Obama has long record of other independent affiliations with supporters of the PLO, "liberation theology", etc. Obama's affinity for and collaboration with such radicals are not irrelevent "associations".

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The terrorist-friendly Mideast "expert" that the Messiah hastily cut his ties with before the election, is now back as a key adviser:

source: ACT for America

It is notable that six months ago the Obama campaign and Malley hastily severed ties with one another after the Times of London reported that Malley had been meeting privately with Hamas leaders on a regular basis—something Obama had publicly pledged never to do. At the time, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt minimized the significance of this monumentally embarrassing revelation, saying: “Rob Malley has, like hundreds of other experts, provided informal advice to the campaign in the past. He has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future.”

But indeed, within hours after Obama’s election victory, Malley was back as a key player in the president-elect’s team of advisors—on his way to Syria. Mr. Obama, meanwhile, received a most friendly communication from Hamas, congratulating him on his “historic victory.”

And self-described communist Ayers now says in print that yes, O. IS a family friend.

From Little Green Footballs:

Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.

— Aldous Huxley

Former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers describes Barack Obama as “a neighbor and family friend” in the new edition of his book Fugitive Days.

Funny how this is only coming out now, isn’t it?

“We had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fund-raiser at my house, where I’d made a small donation to his earliest political campaign,” he writes.

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The terrorist-friendly Mideast "expert" that the Messiah hastily cut his ties with before the election, is now back as a key adviser:

source: ACT for America

It is notable that six months ago the Obama campaign and Malley hastily severed ties with one another after the Times of London reported that Malley had been meeting privately with Hamas leaders on a regular basis—something Obama had publicly pledged never to do. At the time, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt minimized the significance of this monumentally embarrassing revelation, saying: “Rob Malley has, like hundreds of other experts, provided informal advice to the campaign in the past. He has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future.”

But indeed, within hours after Obama’s election victory, Malley was back as a key player in the president-elect’s team of advisors—on his way to Syria. Mr. Obama, meanwhile, received a most friendly communication from Hamas, congratulating him on his “historic victory.”

And self-described communist Ayers now says in print that yes, O. IS a family friend.

From Little Green Footballs:

Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.

— Aldous Huxley

Former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers describes Barack Obama as “a neighbor and family friend” in the new edition of his book Fugitive Days.

Funny how this is only coming out now, isn’t it?

“We had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fund-raiser at my house, where I’d made a small donation to his earliest political campaign,” he writes.

I don't know how the media lives with itself. The evasion wasn't even subtle.

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In Objectivist circles, following Ludwig von Mises, "fascism" is usually taken to mean a collectivist society characterized by government control of the economy, while leaving the title deeds in individual hands (as opposed to socialism and communism, in which the government actually seizes ownership as well as control) -- all fundamentally similar forms of collectivism.

At Little Green Footballs I found this definition of "fascism" (actually more a list than a definition). Does this sound like any president-elect you know, along with his racist mentor Reverend Wright and terrorist family friend William Ayers?

from http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31...What_is_Fascism :

* the primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it;

* the belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external;

* dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences;

* the need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary;

* the need for authority by natural chiefs (always male), culminating in a national chieftain who alone is capable of incarnating the group’s historical destiny;

* the superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason;

* the beauty of violence and efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s success

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At Little Green Footballs I found this definition of "fascism" (actually more a list than a definition). Does this sound like any president-elect you know, along with his racist mentor Reverend Wright and terrorist family friend William Ayers?

What they describe is clearly Nazism rather than fascism in general, but yes the parallels are disturbing.

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This is a story that must not be allowed to die. A viciously depraved liar and manipulator with no respect for human life has been elected president--in spite of his long-term friendship with multiple self-confessed communists and with America-hating terrorists.

Found at http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-op-ed-the...-wouldnt-run/2/ by following a link at Little Green Footballs:

Commentary by Bob Owens:

The Greenwich Village blast Ayers pathologically claims was the catalyst that led to forming the Weather Underground was actually his group’s third botched attempt at mass murder. Ayers personally ordered mass murder attempts at the Detroit Police Benevolent Association and Detroit Police Precinct 13 in February 1970, using bombs comprised of 44 sticks of dynamite. It was only the Weathermen’s incompetence at constructing fuses that kept these blasts from going off and creating dozens of casualties.

Weeks later the Greenwich Village blast occurred when a terrorist cell of the Weather Underground accidentally detonated anti-personnel bombs they were assembling for an attack against soldiers and their dates at a non-commissioned officers dance at nearby Fort Dix that evening. Had the plot succeeded, the planned attack would likely have been the worst terrorist attack on American soil prior to the Oklahoma City bombing.

Bill Ayers would like to use the fog of time to plead his case that he was just another protester against the Vietnam war, a point that the Times is perhaps willing to let him make considering his longtime association with the president-elect they so nakedly support. No amount of inspired fantasy, however, can omit the simple truth that there is only one significant difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh.

Competence.

From the FBI informant's rejected op-ed:

"Response to ‘The Real Bill Ayers’”

By Larry Grathwohl

My name is Larry Grathwohl and I infiltrated the Weather Underground for the FBI. I had no idea when my journey began in August 1969 that I would see and experience the degree of violence and hatred of our democracy that existed in the Weather Underground. Bernardine Dorhn, Bill Ayers, and the other people I would meet had as their sole purpose the destruction of the United States....

At least Bill admits the Weather Underground “crossed” the line of legality but mitigates this admission by stating that the effectiveness of the “symbolic acts of extreme vandalism” is still being debated. He further states that the selected targets were “property, never people” and that their only purpose was to end the war in Vietnam. Bill is simply not being truthful and is rewriting history to reflect a completely different role for himself and the Weather Underground from what actually took place. “Bring the war home, kill your parents” was the mantra being chanted when the group decided to go underground in December 1969 and there certainly isn’t anything anti-war in that statement. I’m also curious as to who is debating their status. When I think about the Weather Underground my immediate thought is “terrorism and death.”

Billy goes on about how the Weather Underground came into existence because “peaceful protests had failed” and “after an accidental explosion killed three comrades.” The explosion of the townhouse in Greenwich Village was the result of a bomb factory which was preparing bombs containing roofing nails for use at a Fort Dix enlisted club. The inclusion of roofing nails can have but one purpose and that’s to injure or kill people. Prior to this event Bill’s wife, Bernardine Dorhn, placed a bomb of the same design at the Park Police Station in San Francisco and killed Officer McDonnell. Additionally, I was still inside the Weather Underground when the townhouse blew up and the commitment to sabotage and terrorism had already been established and the purpose was the overthrow of the United States government....

Let the bastard and his herd of selfless followers know: WE WON'T FORGET!

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This is a story that must not be allowed to die. A viciously depraved liar and manipulator with no respect for human life has been elected president--in spite of his long-term friendship with multiple self-confessed communists and with America-hating terrorists.

Yes. But the simple, unvarnished, non-rationalized, ugly truth is that many elected him *not despite* such factors - but *consciously because* of them.

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This is a story that must not be allowed to die. A viciously depraved liar and manipulator with no respect for human life has been elected president--in spite of his long-term friendship with multiple self-confessed communists and with America-hating terrorists.

Yes. But the simple, unvarnished, non-rationalized, ugly truth is that many elected him *not despite* such factors - but *consciously because* of them.

I don't think that's true. Some did, not many.

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This is a story that must not be allowed to die. A viciously depraved liar and manipulator with no respect for human life has been elected president--in spite of his long-term friendship with multiple self-confessed communists and with America-hating terrorists.

Yes. But the simple, unvarnished, non-rationalized, ugly truth is that many elected him *not despite* such factors - but *consciously because* of them.

Many, yes--but probably far from a majority. Don't forget the massive lying and evasion he had to employ, not to be recognized and rejected as the scum he is. And it took the dishonest complicity of 90% of the country's mass media. The current occupant of the White House being an unspeakable, almost universally despised fool certainly helped him.

If the majority's respect for human life were as low as Obama's, the country would already have dissolved into an orgy of mass murder.

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I don't think that's true. Some did, not many.

And the cheering crowd at Columbia for Iran's president, and the applause for Pianka as he describes airborne Ebola, and the #1 movie popularity of the viro remake of the Day the Earth Stood Still, and the popular support of the EPA that just shut down plans for every single new coal fired power plant in the U.S. - these are all flukes, minor statistical anomolies? No.

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Many, yes--but probably far from a majority. Don't forget the massive lying and evasion he had to employ, not to be recognized and rejected as the scum he is. And it took the dishonest complicity of 90% of the country's mass media.

In any discussion I had about him with a supporter, the other person was aware of Obama's association with Ayers, and usually *explicitly did not care* - and one individual, an engineering student, was actually positive about the association and praised Ayers. I go to a school with about 30,000 students and I saw tons of support for Obama and virtually nothing for McCain, or at least even anti-Obama, save for one professor who was literally afraid to openly speak about it.

Also, in terms of support, note that 90% is a very large majority. Are those reporters highly non-representative of the rest of modern America? Why would anybody listen to them if so?

If the majority's respect for human life were as low as Obama's, the country would already have dissolved into an orgy of mass murder.
Right now it's more "polite" - merely taxing and regulating producers to death while annihilating the currency (note the virtual destruction of all IPOs in America in the past few years for example.) But it doesn't matter to a man if he is killed by a blunt instrument or by having his means of production ripped away by force.

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This is a story that must not be allowed to die. A viciously depraved liar and manipulator with no respect for human life has been elected president--in spite of his long-term friendship with multiple self-confessed communists and with America-hating terrorists.

Yes. But the simple, unvarnished, non-rationalized, ugly truth is that many elected him *not despite* such factors - but *consciously because* of them.

I agree, Phil. That is the real story.

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I go to a school with about 30,000 students and I saw tons of support for Obama and virtually nothing for McCain, or at least even anti-Obama, save for one professor who was literally afraid to openly speak about it.

That's because intellectuals are so rabidly anti-American, anti-individual, anti-reason, and anti everything of value. Most Americans out there in the real world are not. Neither are most of the professors' brainwashed students 20+ years out of college once they face the difficulty of achieving their dreams in the real world when burdened by taxes, regulations, and other government obstacles to success.

Also, in terms of support, note that 90% is a very large majority. Are those reporters highly non-representative of the rest of modern America?

No, they are extremely non-representative.

Why would anybody listen to them if so?

People have stopped listening to them. That's why newspapers are losing readers, losing advertising, laying off reporters, and going bankrupt.

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I don't think that's true. Some did, not many.

And the cheering crowd at Columbia for Iran's president, and the applause for Pianka as he describes airborne Ebola, and the #1 movie popularity of the viro remake of the Day the Earth Stood Still, and the popular support of the EPA that just shut down plans for every single new coal fired power plant in the U.S. - these are all flukes, minor statistical anomolies? No.

I break it down this way, when an idiot like Pianka is speaking who is going to show up to listen except more idiots? The Day The Earth Stood Still probably did well the first week based on the movie's reputation and star power. I'll bet it had nothing to do with the content of the film. I’m guessing it’ll bomb from here on out.

Also, the main stream media is losing support. Newspapers are losing readership and left wing TV news is not doing all that well either.

You are right to point out the negative, but I think you over state your case, although I don't think things are all that good either.

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