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Sarah Palin talks to the president of France

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

I would rather have someone that is a dunce than someone that wants to enslave me. But, when Obama comes to your house, after you vote him in, looking to take your wealth and give it to your neighbor do not come crying. Oh, I forgot you do not make enough money to even count to Obama and his "evil" henchmen.

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

I hate the scumbags that do this sort of 'prank'. There is nothing clever about taking advantage of Some one's benevolent trust. Shame on them, and those who enjoy this sort of thing!

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Why? Because she was deceived by a liar? So was Ayn Rand. Honest people tend to project their own honesty onto other people and, as a result, are often too trusting. It is usually a sign of virtue.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real?

Palin probably surrounds herself with honest people like herself who tend to be too trusting.

Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

Before you call someone a "dunce" and "evil" when there is considerable evidence to the contrary, you had better put up YOUR evidence, if you have any. As Ayn Rand wrote:

To judge means: to evaluate a given concrete by reference to an abstract principle or standard. It is not an easy task; it is not a task that can be performed automatically by one's feelings, "instincts" or hunches. It is a task that requires the most precise, the most exacting, the most ruthlessly objective and rational process of thought. It is fairly easy to grasp abstract moral principles; it can be very difficult to apply them to a given situation, particularly when it involves the moral character of another person. When one pronounces moral judgment, whether in praise or in blame, one must be prepared to answer "Why?" and to prove one's case—to oneself and to any rational inquirer.

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

I would rather have someone that is a dunce than someone that wants to enslave me. But, when Obama comes to your house, after you vote him in, looking to take your wealth and give it to your neighbor do not come crying. Oh, I forgot you do not make enough money to even count to Obama and his "evil" henchmen.

I"m shaking, really.

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

I would rather have someone that is a dunce than someone that wants to enslave me. But, when Obama comes to your house, after you vote him in, looking to take your wealth and give it to your neighbor do not come crying. Oh, I forgot you do not make enough money to even count to Obama and his "evil" henchmen.

I"m shaking, really.

Good, really.

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Really, she just comes off as being straight up stupid.

Oh and what kind of awful staff doesn't screen this stuff to make sure these people are for real? Could I really call up with a good McCain impression and find out the ins and outs of the campaign?

But hey, maybe having such a dunce as our president will be good. We don't want someone who is evil AND intelligent.

I would rather have someone that is a dunce than someone that wants to enslave me. But, when Obama comes to your house, after you vote him in, looking to take your wealth and give it to your neighbor do not come crying. Oh, I forgot you do not make enough money to even count to Obama and his "evil" henchmen.

Obama worries me a lot, because his ambition doesn't just end at America. He has stated multiple times that he will change the world.

Australia is located in Asia, and like all of Asia, we are caught between 2 spheres of influence. China, and the USA. What will happen to my country when it sits in the sphere of influence of a communist nation, and a socialist nation, both wanting to change the world in their image?

I fear for the future, who will stand up for individual rights?

As much as I love my business, and will try my best to fight for liberty with it, I also know my place and influence in history at this point in time, is a gnat riding on the back of an elephant, an elephant that has the philosophical equivalent of rabies afflicting its mind.

Until I grow to be a lot bigger, I worry about being shaken off and trodden on.

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Really, where did this notion come from that I am voting Obama? Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not voting for him and I find the prospect of an Obama presidency frightening as well. I think it's just been overblown on this forum as of late, and people act like McCain is going to be worlds better. Fact is no one has any reason whatsoever to trust McCain in any fashion. You might as well throw your support to Jesus Christ, cause you have as much reason to believe in him as you have to believe in McCain and the Republicans really "shaking up" Washington, or Hell, even postponing Socialism.

McCain won't stop expansions of public health care. He has endorsed, after voting against in 2003, the expansion of Medicare. When Justice Stevens dies, he'll vote in a much more conservative judge who supports states rights and scoffs at the 14th amendment, as the conservatives already on the court do. If we goto war with Iran under McCain, he'll play it soft like Bush did. We'll have a few weeks or even months of battle, followed by the slaughter of our troops and of Iranians for no good reason. Perhaps McCain will find it within himself to bring back conscription, as he has only said that it is an issue of practicality. Frankly, I'd rather give up my money than be forced to fight in a war and probably die. How about McCain's good old support for environmentalism? Of course you'll all shrug that off, because afterall Obama is much more radical on the environment...But theres little to support that. McCain has vowed to wage war against global warming and he has sponsored one of the most damaging bills to that affect.

Of course Obama is a horrifying prospect. I just don't find the John McCain presidency any less disconcerting.

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Really, where did this notion come from that I am voting Obama? Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not voting for him and I find the prospect of an Obama presidency frightening as well. I think it's just been overblown on this forum as of late, and people act like McCain is going to be worlds better.

What evidence do you have to back up the false notion that people on this forum "act like McCain is going to be worlds better?" Also what, in particular, are you claiming is "overblown?"

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Perhaps not worlds better...How about centimeters better? I just don't think that he will be, and I don't think people have any justifiable reason to believe that he is going to take this country in the right direction, or even delay the direction we are taking.

I think many people have overblown Obama's socialism. It's bad, don't get me wrong. The worst aspect is that it is armed with an absolutist ideology, and not the pragmatism of Democrats past. But still, I don't think men with guns are going to be coming to your doors. People are often acting like this country is going to turn into China if Obama is made president, but this just is not true unless you believe a president is essentially an autocrat, or that even with a Democratic congress this country's ideals can just be thrown down COMPLETELY.

There is no lesser of two evils here. There is no choice, major or third party. Both these candidates have voted for the bailout. They have endorsed de facto nationalization.

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Perhaps not worlds better...How about centimeters better? I just don't think that he will be, and I don't think people have any justifiable reason to believe that he is going to take this country in the right direction, or even delay the direction we are taking.

I think many people have overblown Obama's socialism. It's bad, don't get me wrong. The worst aspect is that it is armed with an absolutist ideology, and not the pragmatism of Democrats past. But still, I don't think men with guns are going to be coming to your doors. People are often acting like this country is going to turn into China if Obama is made president, but this just is not true unless you believe a president is essentially an autocrat, or that even with a Democratic congress this country's ideals can just be thrown down COMPLETELY.

There is no lesser of two evils here. There is no choice, major or third party. Both these candidates have voted for the bailout. They have endorsed de facto nationalization.

Those of us who actually know something about the situation and the differences between the candidates will stick to our position despite the wild speculations, arbitrary claims, and repetitious snide remarks and insuations in your posts. If you can't tell the difference between the two candidates than don't vote, but please stop lecturing us with grandiose pronouncements on topics about which you know very little and have nothing to tell us.

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Really, where did this notion come from that I am voting Obama? Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not voting for him and I find the prospect of an Obama presidency frightening as well. I think it's just been overblown on this forum as of late, and people act like McCain is going to be worlds better. Fact is no one has any reason whatsoever to trust McCain in any fashion. You might as well throw your support to Jesus Christ, cause you have as much reason to believe in him as you have to believe in McCain and the Republicans really "shaking up" Washington, or Hell, even postponing Socialism.

McCain won't stop expansions of public health care. He has endorsed, after voting against in 2003, the expansion of Medicare. When Justice Stevens dies, he'll vote in a much more conservative judge who supports states rights and scoffs at the 14th amendment, as the conservatives already on the court do. If we goto war with Iran under McCain, he'll play it soft like Bush did. We'll have a few weeks or even months of battle, followed by the slaughter of our troops and of Iranians for no good reason. Perhaps McCain will find it within himself to bring back conscription, as he has only said that it is an issue of practicality. Frankly, I'd rather give up my money than be forced to fight in a war and probably die. How about McCain's good old support for environmentalism? Of course you'll all shrug that off, because afterall Obama is much more radical on the environment...But theres little to support that. McCain has vowed to wage war against global warming and he has sponsored one of the most damaging bills to that affect.

Of course Obama is a horrifying prospect. I just don't find the John McCain presidency any less disconcerting.

I believe your intent with this thread was to demonstrate how stupid Sarah Palin is because she fell prey to a phone scam.

Well, I think one stupid trumps another:

I’ll gladly vote for the Dumb and Benevolent (McCain/Palin) over the Dumb and Malevolent (Obama/Biden). ^_^

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I believe your intent with this thread was to demonstrate how stupid Sarah Palin is because she fell prey to a phone scam.

Well, I think one stupid trumps another:

I’ll gladly vote for the Dumb and Benevolent (McCain/Palin) over the Dumb and Malevolent (Obama/Biden). ^_^

Me too.

Biden can't count and neither can Obama.

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I believe your intent with this thread was to demonstrate how stupid Sarah Palin is because she fell prey to a phone scam.

Well, I think one stupid trumps another:

I’ll gladly vote for the Dumb and Benevolent (McCain/Palin) over the Dumb and Malevolent (Obama/Biden). ^_^

Notice that Sarah Palin knew enough not to divulge anything of importance. She was appreciative of the call she thought was genuine, but basically said nothing. She did not reveal any information about the campaign and did not say anything "off the record" that could be used as a "gaff" to embarrass her. That was smarter than anyone is giving her credit for. The scam to get her to reveal something of significance did not work.

The profound level of ignorance and malevolence that comes out of the Obama campaign on a daily basis is far more significant for anyone concerned with what these people actually want to do to us. That is far beyond the level of crank phone calls and who can't count. Doesn't this matter to the candidates' "qualifications"?

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Really, where did this notion come from that I am voting Obama? Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not voting for him and I find the prospect of an Obama presidency frightening as well. I think it's just been overblown on this forum as of late, and people act like McCain is going to be worlds better. Fact is no one has any reason whatsoever to trust McCain in any fashion. You might as well throw your support to Jesus Christ, cause you have as much reason to believe in him as you have to believe in McCain and the Republicans really "shaking up" Washington, or Hell, even postponing Socialism.

McCain won't stop expansions of public health care. He has endorsed, after voting against in 2003, the expansion of Medicare. When Justice Stevens dies, he'll vote in a much more conservative judge who supports states rights and scoffs at the 14th amendment, as the conservatives already on the court do. If we goto war with Iran under McCain, he'll play it soft like Bush did. We'll have a few weeks or even months of battle, followed by the slaughter of our troops and of Iranians for no good reason. Perhaps McCain will find it within himself to bring back conscription, as he has only said that it is an issue of practicality. Frankly, I'd rather give up my money than be forced to fight in a war and probably die. How about McCain's good old support for environmentalism? Of course you'll all shrug that off, because afterall Obama is much more radical on the environment...But theres little to support that. McCain has vowed to wage war against global warming and he has sponsored one of the most damaging bills to that affect.

Of course Obama is a horrifying prospect. I just don't find the John McCain presidency any less disconcerting.

I believe your intent with this thread was to demonstrate how stupid Sarah Palin is because she fell prey to a phone scam.

Well, I think one stupid trumps another:

I’ll gladly vote for the Dumb and Benevolent (McCain/Palin) over the Dumb and Malevolent (Obama/Biden). ^_^

Joe making an ass of himself IS funny, as is Obama's 57 state gaffe. However, I wouldn't characterize the McCain campaign as "benevolent".

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Joe making an ass of himself IS funny, as is Obama's 57 state gaffe. However, I wouldn't characterize the McCain campaign as "benevolent".

Why not?

When stating an opinion about something that is not self-evident or, especially, if it is controversial, it is necessary to give reasons for the opinion..

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