Chilling Obama threat against the coal industry

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For many years the viros have been working on a strategic agenda to shut down the coal industry, but it is rare and chilling to see it expressed so openly as it recently has been revealed, and it even more chilling to see it coming out of the mouth of Obama himself in a calculated, unapologetic "explanation" of his grand plan. The old Marxists would have nationalized the coal industry in the name of "the people", and at least in this country would have had to pay for it under eminent domain; Obama and the viros want to destroy it outright on grounds of acknowledged "ideology", and intend to do that through "regulation" in the name of a new "market", which farce will avoid their having to pay the companies they intentionally bankrupt while they deliberately drive energy prices through the roof.

Maine Property Rights News November 4, 2008

ALRA - Urgent, Election Impact, Obama Vows To Bankrupt Coal Companies

Sometimes the ideologues of the anti private property, Anti-Industrial Revolution say things that are so extereme that is hard for normal people to believe they really said it, but Obama really did say that his "Cap and Trade" plan to hobble the energy production industry is intended to bankrupt anyone who tries to build a coal plant as the controls he wants on energy production become progressively more strict. He really did characterize this government scheme as a "market" and he really did make similar statements against natural gas and nuclear energy.

A politician who has so little regard for property rights that he openly acknowledges that he is out to use the government as a tool to destroy an entire industry the viros don't like, and our standard of living with it, can only be expected to impose his contempt for all of our property rights as well. "Spreading other peoples wealth around" through confiscatory taxation in the name of "fairness" is only one part of the social controls radical socialists impose on people.

Here is a link to statements by Obama and Biden assaulting the coal industry. Remember that half the electricity in the US is generated from coal:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=211243

And here is a link to the full context in the chilling San Francisco interview of Obama that has just surfaced:

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%...;fs=1&hl=en

The American Land Rights Association alert on Obama's newly revealed threat is appended below:

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Urgent, Election Impact, Obama Vows to Bankrupt Coal Companies.

This is an all stations “Grassroots Alert” It will only get to enough

people if your personally forward it to your mailing list. We can reach

millions of recipients and voters if you act quickly enough. Even send it

election day.

Action Items -- Urgent

-----1. Contact the voters you know in coal country tell them their

livelihoods may depend on voting tomorrow. Tell them to ask themselves why

Senator Obama would say one thing when he is in San Francisco and another

when he is in Paducah, KY or Coal strip, MT or Southern Illinois, or

Bluefield, WV.

-----2. Forward to everyone you know in coal country. That means everyone

you know in IL, IN, KY, WV, PA, Southwest Virginia, Wyoming, Montana and

Alaska.

-----3. And tell all of your friends to vote for their Republican

Senators ­ it may be all that stands between Senator Obama and this

draconian energy policy meant to weaken our Country. We must not all Harry

Reid to be able to control the Senate without the fear of a filibuster. The

filibuster looks like it is going to be the only tool to keep Congress and

Obama in check. Here are the key Senators that need your help.

Kentucky -- Mitch McConnell ­ (R-KY)

Minnesota -- Norm Coleman ­(R-MN)

Oregon -- Gordon Smith ­ (R-OR)

Alaska -- Ted Stevens _(R-AK) -

North Carolina -- Elizabeth Dole ­ (R-NC)

New Hampshire -- John Sununu- (R-NH)

Georga -- Saxby Chambliss- (R-GA)

Mississippi -- Roger Wicker - (R-MS)

Remember over 50% of your electricity is generated by a coal fired power

plant. America has a nearly 300-year supply of coal ­ we are the Saudi

Arabia of coal with the single largest reserves in the world. Then ask

yourself why someone wanting to lead this country would want to bankrupt

this industry.

In January 17, 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle Barak Obama

told the Chronicle that his cap and trade system for carbon “would bankrupt

anyone who wanted to build a coal fired power plant”.

Don’t Believe it? ­ go to the following website to listen to the interview:

Source URL:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/...t-coal-industry

Here is a copy of the interview transcript: Barack Obama:

“Let me sort of describe my overall policy. What I've said is that we would put

a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive,

than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system,

which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be

charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever

technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants

that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market

and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that

it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all

that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar,

wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal

booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a

(sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use

coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.”

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.

Surprised?

It is not at all surprising that Senator Obama would tell the San Francisco

Chronicle this ­ remember it is where he told his supporters that we in

rural America cling to our guns and our religion.

If you want to avoid this disaster you are going to have to get out and

fight to get your neighbors to the polls, your are going to have to fight to

maintain 45 Republican Senators in the Senate, and your going to have to

fight to stem the losses in the House of Representatives.

Never have the stakes been higher, never has your participation in a

representative democracy been more important.

More Action Items

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election.

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the danger to make a difference. So please. Forward this message to as

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-----2. If you live in one of the states with the threatened Senators

listed above, do everything you can between now and Tuesday to urge your

friends, neighbors and business associates to vote for those Senators that

are listed.

If the Senate becomes filibuster proof, there will be few ways to save you

from the coming onslaught. We must keep the number of Democrat Senators

below 56 or 57. If they get 60 Democrats in the Senate, you are going to

have the worst four years in several generations. No one's rights will be

safe.

-----3. Call any friends, business associates or relatives you have in the

states of the Senators listed and urge them to keep their Senators in the

Senate.

Chuck Cushman

American Land Rights Association

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ccushman <AT> pacifier.com

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[JohnRgt 0]

A while back I read that the US had 10 times more BTUs in its coal deposits than there are in all the known oil reserves of the world combined.

[Carlos 0]

I can't believe they actually have audio excerpts (I've heard them myself) where Obama literally states he plans to bankrupt coal companies.

The comparison the talk radio guys made was to imagine if McCain gave an interview to a newspaper and said he wanted to bankrupt American car companies, what kind of insane media storm and outrage would that spark?

It is simply amazing to see the number of middle class individuals who will vote for Obama because they are getting "tax cuts". Will these fools cry bait and switch when their electricity bills double and gas prices hit an all-time high? (but of course they will have that swank check of free money the government sent them).

Our departmental secretary sent an email today encouraging us to look at Obama's tax policies and to consider voting for him...

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All the viros could come up with was to claim his statements were "taken out of context" -- as they tried to take the whole context out of context. Obama's chilling statements on behalf of destroying the coal industry were not a fleeting "gaffe"; it was a sustained, carefully formulated explanation of a radical plan in response to a question from an ideological cohort.

They know very well that killing the coal energy has been a viro goal for decades, but didn't want the voters to know it. They know that it is still too early to tell people what they stand for, which is exactly why such strenuous efforts have been made to hide Obama's background and ideology. This strategy continues as the word is now being spread that he will "govern from the center". What they regard as the "center" is the left, which they also will not acknowledge. The only question is how long he will go on trying to publicly pretend not to be imposing a radical left ideology before reverting to the old rhetoric.

November 4, 2008

Palin twists remarks on coal by Obama, supporters say

By Ken Ward Jr. Staff writer

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- The McCain campaign is trying to sway coal state voters by selectively quoting from a 10-month-old interview to allege that Obama plans to "bankrupt the coal industry" with his plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin kicked off the last-minute attack Sunday during an appearance in Marietta, Ohio. At about the same time, clips of select portions of Obama's January comments to the San Francisco Chronicle surfaced on conservative blogs and Web sites.

But Obama campaign officials, and Chronicle editors, said the Illinois senator's remarks were taken greatly out of context...

Joseph Romm, a former Clinton Energy Department official and physicist who writes the Climate Progress blog, conceded "an inartful choice of words by Obama."

"But fundamentally, his remarks reflect an accurate understanding of the impact - indeed, the goal - of serious climate regulations, if we ever get around to them," Romm wrote in a Monday-morning blog post...

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It's not just coal -- this thread should be "Chilling Obama threat against the energy industry."

WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama's transition chief said Sunday the incoming administration is looking to reverse President Bush's executive orders on stem cell research, oil and gas drilling and other matters.

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...[T]he federal Bureau of Land Management is opening about 360,000 acres of public land in Utah to oil and gas drilling, leading to protests from environmentalists.

"They want to have oil and gas drilling in some of the most sensitive, fragile lands in Utah," Podesta said. "I think that's a mistake."

How will this "sensitive, fragile land" be destroyed by drilling? A rig or a pump is unsightly to the Environmentalist Left, but it affects a relatively small amount of land and modern drilling has an even smaller footprint now than a few years ago. Of course that's not the issue; Mankind=Industry=Ugly, Nature=trees&animals=Beautiful. That Obama has put this on the top of his agenda, to be implemented by executive order, before even submitting anything to the legislature, should convince those who might have hoped that Obama would be a pragmatist first and an ideologue second.

Obama's "plan" for saving the economy is to stop productive enterprise, to literally stop the motors of the world by starving them of fuel, and (see thread on incentives for government service and subsidies to non-taxpayers) spend as much money as he can. That's a very interesting economic plan. Even the USSR didn't consider that first part. This should end well.

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It's not just coal -- this thread should be "Chilling Obama threat against the energy industry."

WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama's transition chief said Sunday the incoming administration is looking to reverse President Bush's executive orders on stem cell research, oil and gas drilling and other matters.

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...[T]he federal Bureau of Land Management is opening about 360,000 acres of public land in Utah to oil and gas drilling, leading to protests from environmentalists.

"They want to have oil and gas drilling in some of the most sensitive, fragile lands in Utah," Podesta said. "I think that's a mistake

I'm sorry the link to the quoted article is: [here]

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Al Gore is advocating violence against coal plants

In the past several months, protesters picketed a coal plant in Kansas. They formed human barriers outside a plant in Virginia, where Hilton and 10 others were arrested.

In April, activists locked themselves to bulldozers outside a Duke Power plant under construction in western North Carolina and spread a banner that said "Global Warming Crime Scene." Police used stun guns to control some of the demonstrators and arrested eight people. This fall, Al Gore said, "We've reached the stage where it's time for civil disobedience to prevent construction of new coal-fired power plants that do not have sequestration."

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Al Gore is advocating violence against coal plants

In the past several months, protesters picketed a coal plant in Kansas. They formed human barriers outside a plant in Virginia, where Hilton and 10 others were arrested.

In April, activists locked themselves to bulldozers outside a Duke Power plant under construction in western North Carolina and spread a banner that said "Global Warming Crime Scene." Police used stun guns to control some of the demonstrators and arrested eight people. This fall, Al Gore said, "We've reached the stage where it's time for civil disobedience to prevent construction of new coal-fired power plants that do not have sequestration."

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Dr. James Hansen of NASA has endorsed eco-terrorism:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/10/note...mes-hansen-now/

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgxM...ZlNDFmMDA=#more

Make no mistake about it, the imminent Christian Theocracy is a far greater threat than concrete-bound environmentalism...

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Hansen’s endorsement is likely to embolden radicals in the United Kingdom and possibly in the U.S., where members of the Earth Liberation Front have torched suburban homes, SUVs, logging trucks, ranger stations, and a ski resort in Vail, Colo., causing many millions of dollars in damage.

“The ramifications are huge,” writes Iain Murray, an environmental-science expert with the Competitive Enterprise Institute. “Operators of coal-fired power stations in the U. K. have just been stripped of legal protection from the criminal actions of the environmental lobby.”

How long before open violence against "polluters" becomes the norm? Eco-terrorism is supposedly the top form of terrorism world-wide right now!

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Make no mistake about it, the imminent Christian Theocracy is a far greater threat than concrete-bound environmentalism...

Based on what ?

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Make no mistake about it, the imminent Christian Theocracy is a far greater threat than concrete-bound environmentalism...

Based on what ?

Based on I was being sarcastic

[la zafada 0]

How long before open violence against "polluters" becomes the norm? Eco-terrorism is supposedly the top form of terrorism world-wide right now!

Look for "justifiable" federal govt. violence against citizens to increase.

I haven't sat down and made a list, but when the left has been in power recently, the punitive force of the feds has often been used improperly against citizens, ie Elian raid, Waco.

"Change" looks like it means change back to a Clinton-type government. Obama's so obviously a puppet of the power-hungry Old Left. He was a brilliant choice in terms of public relations, a real media coup for them.

I wouldn't be surprised in the future by a Waco-type raid to close down any naughty coal-powered plants that refuse to go bankrupt.

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Look for "justifiable" federal govt. violence against citizens to increase.

I haven't sat down and made a list, but when the left has been in power recently, the punitive force of the feds has often been used improperly against citizens, ie Elian raid, Waco.

That is already happening continuously in 'blue' states ruled by progressive regimes, where viro and tax bureaucracies are used routinely to bully and vindictively punish people. See for example http://MaineTaxAbuse.org.

[la zafada 0]

Thanks for the article. I wasn't aware of this. Looks like I'll never visit Maine.

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The viros are stepping up the campaign against coal. Here they reveal that "pollution", i.e., "unclean", means anything we do that causes Globulwarming, but the political significance of this promotional spin in the name of news by The Washington Post ("reporting" on an advertisement campaign) is the MSM promotion on behalf of the organized viro campaign to kill coal -- illustrating beyond the money spent by viros on advertising that there is indeed a high power strategic campaign with a lot of money and resources behind it to kill the coal industry. The specific anti-coal campaign has been planned for many years, but is now being made visible because they know what they just got into the White House to replace the opposition to them by the Bush administration and they know it's time to move into action. It does indeed matter who is in the White House.

Environmental Groups Bash 'Clean Coal' in New Campaign

By Steven Mufson

Washington Post Staff Writer

Friday, December 5, 2008; Page D02

The phrase "clean coal" was repeated by virtually every major presidential candidate this year. Now the battle over what it means is heating up.

A group of environmental organizations concerned about global warming, including one backed by former vice president Al Gore, is launching an advertising campaign this week to counter the coal industry's efforts to promote what it calls "clean coal."

The groups will spend millions of dollars on television, newspaper and outdoor ads, the first of which shows a factory door in the middle of a barren landscape and the slogan: "In reality, there is no such thing as 'clean coal.' " The ads say that "there isn't a single commercial coal power plant in America today that captures its global warming pollution."...

Gore, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize for his climate change efforts, and other organizations -- including the Sierra Club, Natural Resources Defense Council and National Wildlife Federation -- are backing the ad campaign to try to influence public debate on the eve of the new administration. "Coal is not clean. It is one of the leading sources of global warming pollution and the technology does not exist today to make it clean on a widespread scale," Gore said in an interview....

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