Bill Bucko

Obama's brownshirt "volunteer" corps passes House

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From Fox News, at http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18...forced-service/ :

House Passes Volunteerism Bill Critics Call Pricey, Forced Service

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

-- The House of Representatives passed a measure Wednesday that supporters are calling the most sweeping reform of nationally-backed volunteer programs since AmeriCorps. But some opponents are strongly criticizing the legislation, calling it expensive indoctrination and forced advocacy.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act -- sponsored by Reps. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y, and George Miller, D-Calif. -- was approved by a 321-105 vote and now goes to the Senate.

The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 "new service opportunities" under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional "corps" to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation. ...

Any bets as to who the brownshirt goons in "Clean Energy" Corps and "Education" Corps are going to go after?

... But the bill's opponents -- and there are only a few in Congress -- say it could cram ideology down the throats of young "volunteers," many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a "Congressional Commission on Civic Service."

The bipartisan commission will be tasked with exploring a number of topics, including "whether a workable, fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the nation." ...

Others say they are concerned that the increased funding will be used to promote one ideology over another.

"It's allowing taxpayer funding of the left-wing organizations," said Larry Hart, director of government relations for the American Conservative Union.

"I think this is a problem that is rife throughout the federal government. When you dramatically expand the program, then you dramatically expand the ability for these left-wing advocacy organizations to get more funding. I don't see a lot of attention being paid to that, even from those who are critical. That's where the focus should be. Republicans tend to say its not that they oppose the program, they just want to spend less money. It's the program that's bad." ....

"Senator Obama aims to tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda," Lee Cary of the conservative American Thinker wrote at the time about Obama's remarks.

"(His words) were about turning America into one, giant, community organizer's sandbox at enormous cost to taxpayers," Cary wrote.

Supporters say critics are a minority who prefer to agitate than assist.

"Resistance to expanded public service programs can be expected from the ideologically sclerotic, those who occupy the negative ground between government as the problem and government as our enemy," former Democratic Colorado Sen. Gary Hart wrote in a recent op-ed on the Huffington Post Web site.

The Senate is mulling over a similar piece of legislation, the "Serve America Act," sponsored by Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass. It was given a special endorsement by the president in his address before Congress on Feb. 24.

BOMBARD THOSE FASCIST BASTARDS IN CONGRESS WITH PROTESTS! DO IT NOW!

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Young pioneers, Hitler youth, junior league of spies, it's not a new concept and the bill's proponents surely realise this (well except perhaps Barbara Boxer who I exempt on the grounds of absolute stupidity ;) )

What is truly remarkable however is that the people don't see this for what it is.

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Here are links to all the culprits in the Senate:

ACT NOW!

There's NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PROTESTING!

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This is the last straw. Anyone have a complete, up-to-date mailing list of the Congress (both houses) and any supporting/influential members, lobbyists, etc. so we can e-paper them with protests? Calling only goes so far. Also, I have heard that (at least in the past) that Washington considers an opinion expressed in a written, mailed envelope to represent the opinions of 10,000 persons who did not write. That could go a long way.

This is perhaps the most insidious of Obama's, and the left's programs to date.

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This is the last straw. Anyone have a complete, up-to-date mailing list of the Congress (both houses) and any supporting/influential members, lobbyists, etc. so we can e-paper them with protests? Calling only goes so far. Also, I have heard that (at least in the past) that Washington considers an opinion expressed in a written, mailed envelope to represent the opinions of 10,000 persons who did not write. That could go a long way.

That is because they realize that those who take the effort to write are a minority of those with the same views, even those with the same strongly held views. Fewer letters from more rural areas have more weight because they know that people in such areas don't tend to write much at all. Writing is more effective than email because an informal email is much easier to compose and send, and they don't have the attention span to even read and digest an email of more than a few words to see what is in it. Calling has a more personal impact. You can do more than one.

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Young pioneers, Hitler youth, junior league of spies, it's not a new concept and the bill's proponents surely realise this (well except perhaps Barbara Boxer who I exempt on the grounds of absolute stupidity ;) )

What is truly remarkable however is that the people don't see this for what it is.

You mean normal people. The leftists do see it. They think of government power as an entitlement for their cause.

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It's even worse. Take a look at some of the extra goodies in this legislation:

12. H.AMDT.49 to H.R.1388 Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.

Sponsor: Rep Miller, George [CA-7] (introduced 3/18/2009) Cosponsors (None)

Latest Major Action: 3/18/2009 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Miller, George amendment (A012) Agreed to by voice vote.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d1...temp/~bda0Hij:1[1-12](Amendments_For_H.R.1388)&./temp/~bdCVZX
SEC. 1710. STUDY TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF A CENTRALIZED ELECTRONIC CITIZENSHIP VERIFICATION SYSTEM.

(a) Study- The Corporation for National and Community Service shall conduct a study to determine the effectiveness of a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education in order to reduce administrative burden and lower costs for member programs. This study shall identify--

(1) the costs associated with establishing this program both for the Corporation and for the Department of Education;

(2) the benefits or detriments of such a system both for the Corporation and for the Department of Education;

(3) strategies for ensuring the privacy and security of member information that is shared between agencies and member organizations;

(4) the information that needs to be shared in order to fulfill employment eligibility requirements; and

(5) recommendations for implementation of such a program.

(B ) Consultation- The study shall be carried out in consultation with the Department of Education and other individuals and entities the Corporation considers appropriate.

(C ) Report- Not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Corporation shall submit to Congress a report on the results of the study required by subsection (a), together with a plan for implementation of a pilot program using promising strategies and approaches identified in such study, if the Corporation determines such program to be feasible.

(d) Pilot Program- From amounts made available to carry out this section, the Corporation shall develop and carry out a pilot program based on the findings in the report submitted under subsection(C ), if Congress deems such a program to be feasible.

(e) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated to carry out this section such sums as may be necessary for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111...6dBN2T:e209995:

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I guess this is why they are bombarding us with AIG bonuses. Probably just a diversion to keep us from seeing this. I searched CNN and MSNBC today and found absolutely nothing about this bill. Fox was the only one to cover it.

Want to know if your Rep voted for this bill? ... visit: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll140.xml

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It's even worse. Take a look at some of the extra goodies in this legislation:
12. H.AMDT.49 to H.R.1388....
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d1...temp/~bda0Hij:1[1-12](Amendments_For_H.R.1388)&./temp/~bdCVZX
SEC. 1710. STUDY TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF A CENTRALIZED ELECTRONIC CITIZENSHIP VERIFICATION SYSTEM.....
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111...6dBN2T:e209995:

Looks like the links aren't working, so here's directions:

Go to http://www.house.gov/

Then search by bill number 1388.

This is another enormous bill loaded, in addition to the central purpose, with traps that no one is expected to have the time or resources to uncover in the mountain of text and legalistic nuances and obscure references modifying existing law.

You can go to it directly by searching for 'HR1388' (not just '1388') at the original http://thomas.loc.gov, but the urls resulting from searches at thomas are temporary. Once you find the bill, there are links for the full text, different versions, amendments, discussions in the Congressional Record, bill status, sponsors, etc. Records of back room conniving are somehow still unavailable in the Messiah's New Age of "Transparency".

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