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| Guest_ElizabethLee_* |
Nov 6 2005, 11:32 PM
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Bill Bucko posted a must-read description of meeting AR; he then added a question;
QUOTE(Bill Bucko @ Feb 11 2005, 08:18 PM) During the question and answer period a diffident young woman respectfully questioned Miss Rand’s views on femininity.* Miss Rand nodded gently, acknowledging that the issue was not self-evident, and politely recommended, “Well ... think about it.” ..... She didn’t look like a world famous writer. She was as natural and unpretentious as could be, and seemed innocently, almost childishly happy to be meeting people who loved her books. An earnest young man reached her side, and uttered some solemn words of thanks. She listened quietly, then nodded her head in acknowledgment when he was done. As far as I could guess, though, she seemed more comfortable with the more casual attitude of the majority of her fans, whose mood I think I could sum up as: “Hurray! Isn’t it fun that we get to meet each other? (And please could you autograph this for me, as a souvenir?)” After a while the manager came and told Miss Rand it was time to close the building. “Oh, couldn’t we stay just a little while longer?” she smiled up at him, and he relented. .... overheard her plans for the rest of the evening: she was going to ride back to New York on the Greyhound Bus, with her beloved husband Frank O’Connor at her side. ....we saw a warm, friendly, youthful old woman, with the innocence of a young girl. We saw a person who was delighted to see us, apparently at peace with herself and deeply happy. .... Copyright © 1992 by Bill Bucko * Rightfully so, I think. I believe Miss Rand’s unique psychological situation—knowing herself to be at the top of the “pyramid of ability,” having no one above her—coupled with her passionate need to look up and admire—may have led her mistakenly (though understandably) to elevate the status of men above women (in the limited respect in which she did do so). But if “the essence of femininity is hero worship,” as Miss Rand said, why can’t the essence of masculinity be ... heroine worship? [right][snapback]241[/snapback][/right] Bill, are you out there? do you still have the question? does anyone else? I did think about this a lot, and came to the conclusion, yet again; AR was right. |
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ElizabethLee femininity vs heroine worship Nov 6 2005, 11:32 PM
ElizabethLee p.s. I included so much of the post because femini... Nov 6 2005, 11:33 PM
ElizabethLee this too;
QUOTE(Bill Bucko @ Feb 12 2005, 10... Nov 6 2005, 11:41 PM
Free Capitalist I'd love to hear what you have to say, Elizabe... Nov 7 2005, 12:56 AM
ElizabethLee QUOTE(Free Capitalist @ Nov 6 2005, 08:56 PM)... Nov 7 2005, 01:54 AM
ElizabethLee I found a 55-replies, 3k-viewed thread here, that... Nov 7 2005, 02:31 AM
Betsy Speicher I didn't say anything on the "fantasies... Nov 7 2005, 05:46 AM
ElizabethLee QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 7 2005, 01:46 AM)H... Nov 7 2005, 01:46 PM

Betsy Speicher QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 7 2005, 06:46 AM)I... Nov 7 2005, 02:51 PM


ElizabethLee hi Betsy & Steve!
in reading the back -pos... Nov 8 2005, 01:45 AM


Betsy Speicher QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 7 2005, 06:45 PM)So,... Nov 8 2005, 05:57 AM


ElizabethLee QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 01:57 AM)I... Nov 8 2005, 02:20 PM


Betsy Speicher QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 8 2005, 07:20 AM) Ca... Nov 8 2005, 04:04 PM

Ed from OC QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 7 2005, 05:46 AM)I r... Nov 7 2005, 04:37 PM


ElizabethLee QUOTE(Ed from OC @ Nov 7 2005, 12:37 PM)FYI, ... Nov 8 2005, 01:41 AM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 7 2005, 05:46 AM)Per... Nov 7 2005, 04:44 PM
B. Royce QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 7 2005, 05:46 AM)I... Nov 7 2005, 02:46 PM

Betsy Speicher QUOTE(B. Royce @ Nov 7 2005, 07:46 AM)When yo... Nov 7 2005, 03:20 PM


Michelle F. Cohen QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 7 2005, 11:20 AM)I... Nov 7 2005, 03:50 PM


ASelameab My question would be, is masculinity exclusive to ... Nov 7 2005, 04:27 PM


ElizabethLee hi Coire & A!
Have you both read Betsy... Nov 8 2005, 02:09 AM


SarahHintz QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 7 2005, 11:27 AM)Another qu... Nov 8 2005, 02:52 AM



ASelameab QUOTE(SarahHintz @ Nov 7 2005, 08:52 PM)Accor... Nov 8 2005, 04:04 AM




ElizabethLee QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 8 2005, 12:04 AM)I have lis... Nov 8 2005, 02:36 PM



Betsy Speicher QUOTE(SarahHintz @ Nov 7 2005, 07:52 PM)Howev... Nov 8 2005, 06:01 AM


Betsy Speicher QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 7 2005, 09:27 AM)But is fem... Nov 8 2005, 05:36 AM


ElizabethLee QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 01:36 AM)I... Nov 8 2005, 02:40 PM


ElizabethLee re the feeling of surrender;
[]I want to post mor... Nov 8 2005, 02:46 PM


ElizabethLee I forgot to say: for me, the "out of control... Nov 8 2005, 02:48 PM

ElizabethLee QUOTE(B. Royce @ Nov 7 2005, 10:46 AM) won... Nov 8 2005, 01:47 AM
CoireFox QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 7 2005, 12:46 AM) ... Nov 7 2005, 08:05 PM

Betsy Speicher QUOTE(CoireFox @ Nov 7 2005, 01:05 PM)Would y... Nov 8 2005, 05:42 AM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 12:42 AM)I... Nov 8 2005, 05:59 AM

Carlos E. Jordan QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 12:59 AM)Why not? I... Nov 8 2005, 09:00 AM


dondigitalia QUOTE(Carlos E. Jordan @ Nov 8 2005, 04:00 AM... Nov 8 2005, 09:52 AM


ElizabethLee QUOTE(dondigitalia @ Nov 8 2005, 05:52 AM)[re... Nov 8 2005, 02:15 PM


ElizabethLee QUOTE(dondigitalia @ Nov 8 2005, 05:52 AM)Or,... Nov 8 2005, 02:23 PM


dondigitalia QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 8 2005, 09:23 AM)rea... Nov 8 2005, 07:53 PM

Michael Jenkinson QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 03:59 PM)Why not? I... Nov 8 2005, 05:32 PM


OliverComputing QUOTE(Michael Jenkinson @ Nov 8 2005, 12:32 P... Nov 8 2005, 10:34 PM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 7 2005, 09:59 PM)QUOTE(Betsy ... Nov 8 2005, 07:07 PM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 02:07 PM... Nov 8 2005, 07:45 PM
SteveGrossman QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 7 2005, 12:46 AM)M... Nov 8 2005, 07:06 PM
ASelameab QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 6 2005, 05:32 PM)Bil... Nov 7 2005, 04:18 AM
ElizabethLee QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 7 2005, 12:18 AM)Is your qu... Nov 7 2005, 01:37 PM
ASelameab QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 7 2005, 07:37 AM)Hi ... Nov 7 2005, 04:31 PM
ASelameab Also, could anyone talk about the roles of masculi... Nov 7 2005, 04:33 PM
poojagupta QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 6 2005, 06:32 PM)Rig... Nov 8 2005, 06:07 AM
dondigitalia QUOTE(poojagupta @ Nov 8 2005, 01:07 AM)A wom... Nov 8 2005, 06:47 AM
CoireFox QUOTE(poojagupta @ Nov 8 2005, 01:07 AM)But w... Nov 8 2005, 08:06 AM

ElizabethLee QUOTE(CoireFox @ Nov 8 2005, 04:06 AM)What do... Nov 8 2005, 02:26 PM


Carlos E. Jordan QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 8 2005, 09:26 AM)Not... Nov 8 2005, 07:28 PM


CoireFox QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 8 2005, 09:26 AM)
A ... Nov 8 2005, 10:00 PM



Betsy Speicher QUOTE(CoireFox @ Nov 8 2005, 03:00 PM)This do... Nov 9 2005, 03:37 PM


Sam Axton QUOTE(elizabethlee @ Nov 8 2005, 10:26 AM)A m... Nov 8 2005, 11:48 PM


Betsy Speicher QUOTE(Sam Axton @ Nov 8 2005, 04:48 PM)Hi Eli... Nov 9 2005, 03:59 PM

Betsy Speicher QUOTE(poojagupta @ Nov 8 2005 @ 01:07 AM)But... Nov 8 2005, 03:37 PM

CoireFox QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 10:37 AM)I... Nov 8 2005, 10:28 PM

Betsy Speicher QUOTE(CoireFox @ Nov 8 2005, 03:28 PM)In the ... Nov 9 2005, 03:45 PM
ElizabethLee QUOTE(poojagupta @ Nov 8 2005, 02:07 AM) a wo... Nov 8 2005, 02:17 PM
Free Capitalist QUOTE(CoireFox)What does the man possess in terms ... Nov 8 2005, 07:13 PM
Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Michael Jenkinson @ Nov 8 2005, 12:32 P... Nov 8 2005, 07:34 PM
Free Capitalist QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 03:34 PM)I could ask ... Nov 8 2005, 08:28 PM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Free Capitalist @ Nov 8 2005, 03:28 PM)... Nov 8 2005, 08:51 PM
Stephen Speicher Alex, I appreciate the way you have framed the iss... Nov 8 2005, 09:36 PM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 04:36 PM... Nov 8 2005, 10:27 PM

CoireFox QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 05:27 PM)However, the... Nov 8 2005, 10:36 PM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 02:27 PM)Are you here... Nov 9 2005, 04:45 AM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 8 2005, 11:45 PM... Nov 9 2005, 06:30 AM

Ed from OC QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 10:30 PM)(And, along ... Nov 9 2005, 04:43 PM


Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Ed from OC @ Nov 9 2005, 11:43 AM)If ha... Nov 9 2005, 07:35 PM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 10:30 PM)I agree, but... Nov 9 2005, 07:12 PM

SarahHintz QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 9 2005, 02:12 PM... Nov 9 2005, 07:51 PM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 9 2005, 02:12 PM... Nov 9 2005, 08:27 PM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 9 2005, 12:27 PM)So, allow me... Nov 10 2005, 01:47 AM

Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Nov 9 2005, 08:47 PM... Nov 10 2005, 02:36 AM

Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 9 2005, 06:36 PM)Basically, w... Nov 10 2005, 03:01 AM
Betsy Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 12:34 PM)What I’m get... Nov 9 2005, 03:25 PM
CoireFox QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 8 2005, 02:34 PM)My main poin... Nov 8 2005, 10:13 PM
Free Capitalist QUOTE(CoireFox)when it comes to what I shall call ... Nov 9 2005, 12:00 AM
CoireFox QUOTE(Free Capitalist @ Nov 8 2005, 07:00 PM)... Nov 9 2005, 12:35 AM
SarahHintz After doing a little introspection, here are some ... Nov 9 2005, 01:18 AM
free spirit Well, speaking for myself, and as a feminine woman... Nov 9 2005, 02:53 AM
ASelameab I guess my concern comes from my hesitation to tel... Nov 9 2005, 03:20 AM
ASelameab QUOTE(free spirit @ Nov 8 2005, 08:53 PM)This... Nov 9 2005, 03:49 AM
Stephen Speicher QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 8 2005, 07:49 PM)This is an... Nov 9 2005, 05:03 AM
Betsy Speicher QUOTE (Amse @ Nov 8 2005, 08:49 PM)This is an... Nov 9 2005, 04:07 PM
free spirit QUOTEI can understand calling the essence of femin... Nov 9 2005, 03:48 AM
Free Capitalist QUOTE(Ed from OC)I don't see this whole discus... Nov 9 2005, 07:04 PM
Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Free Capitalist @ Nov 9 2005, 02:04 PM)... Nov 9 2005, 08:03 PM
Alex_Silverman For those who are receiving e-mail notification of... Nov 10 2005, 02:41 AM
Alex_Silverman Stephen, we are definitely talking past each other... Nov 10 2005, 03:11 AM
Stephen Speicher QUOTE(ADS @ Nov 9 2005, 07:11 PM)Stephen, we ... Nov 10 2005, 03:13 AM
Betsy Speicher When it comes to sexual "conquest" and ... Nov 10 2005, 04:35 AM
Alex_Silverman QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 9 2005, 11:35 PM)W... Nov 10 2005, 04:56 AM
Stephen Speicher QUOTE(Betsy Speicher @ Nov 9 2005, 08:35 PM)W... Nov 10 2005, 05:05 PM
jenbryn QUOTE(Free Capitalist @ Nov 9 2005, 01:04 PM)... Nov 10 2005, 04:22 PM
Stephen Speicher QUOTE(jenbryn @ Nov 10 2005, 08:22 AM)I have ... Nov 10 2005, 05:08 PM
OliverComputing Re: the issue of physical size of a man vs. his fe... Nov 10 2005, 06:02 PM
Alex_Silverman QUOTE(jenbryn @ Nov 10 2005, 11:22 AM)Alex an... Nov 10 2005, 07:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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