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Aug 7 2006, 05:54 PM
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Founders College has inaugurated their initial website. This introduction to the college is a single page, with the full website due to appear this September.
The website indicates that the college will offer "initial majors in business, economics, philosophy, history, literature and the arts, and an education certificate." More ambitious and more comprehensive than I had earlier anticipated. The website also confirms that professors will be trained according to a program determined by the college, and that there will be no tenure for professors at Founders College. Hallelujah for that! Student applications will be accepted shortly, for classes commencing in Fall 2007. -------------------- Stephen
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Aug 7 2006, 06:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,344 Joined: 16-February 05 Member No.: 236 |
Just reading their website brings a large smile to my face. I look forward to the revolution that the site mentions taking place in education and beyond.
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Aug 7 2006, 06:19 PM
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Very inspiring!
-------------------- current avatar is a color-tinted b&w photo of Lillian Gish.
------------------------ Fantasy is not a form of cognition. -- Leonard Peikoff, Expanded 2nd ed. of Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, p. 116 |
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Aug 10 2006, 12:21 AM
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Makes me think there might actually be somewhere I could enjoy studying economics...
-------------------- Danielle Olivia Clark
"Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the aproximate, the not-quite, the not-yet, the not-at-all. Do not let the hero in your soul perish, in lonely frustration for the life you deserved, but have never been able to reach. Check your road and the nature of your battle. The world you desired can be won, it exists, it is real, it is possible, it's yours." -Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged pg.1069 |
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Aug 19 2006, 03:44 AM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 7,870 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 1 |
If this report is correct, Founders College may have found its home in Campbell County, Virginia.
QUOTE(WDBJ) Campbell County may become home to a new college. Organizers of a private for profit liberal arts college have purchased the old Merritt Hutchinson Resort near Leesville. They're planning to build a school, residential community for faculty, along with a retirement community and golf course on the site. Founders College hopes to enroll 75 to 100 students as early as next fall and eventually grow to as many as 1,500 students. The plan must first get approval from the county. The planning commission could consider it next month. And, as a further indication of plans moving ahead, the following ad appeared in both HigherEdJobs.com and InsideHigherEd.com: QUOTE In our mission to ignite a revolution of excellence in liberal arts education, Founders College seeks extraordinary candidates for the position of Chief Marketing Officer (CMO). The CMO is an executive-level ambassador for the college, responsible for leading the successful implementation of our marketing strategy, including: production and distribution of student recruitment communications (including internet-based communication), response to inquiries about the college, coordination of college fairs, supervision of regional recruiters, development and placement of print and website advertising and conversion of applicants to matriculation.
The successful CMO candidate will be a smart, rational professional with a passion for higher education and some related experience. We are looking for an excellent communicator, who is well organized, conscientious, has an entrepreneurial mindset and who interacts well with others. Career ambition and a demonstrated track record in marketing and sales are highly desirable. Willingness to travel is required. Compensation includes a six-figure salary, equity in a growing for-profit company, and a performance-based bonus. If you are interested in this exciting opportunity, please email your letter and resume to: Tamara K. Fuller Executive Vice President & Chief Strategy Officer Founders College Education, Inc. tfuller@founderscollege.com -------------------- Stephen
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Aug 19 2006, 04:31 AM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 7,870 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Aug 18 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]36788[/snapback] If this report is correct, Founders College may have found its home in Campbell County, Virginia. QUOTE(WDBJ) Campbell County may become home to a new college. Organizers of a private for profit liberal arts college have purchased the old Merritt Hutchinson Resort near Leesville.... Here is a description of the Merritt Hutchinson Resort, along with photos (click on "PHOTOS"). An interesting excerpt: QUOTE It comprises approximately 1,100 acres in the foothills of the majestic Blue Ridge Mountains, "where heritage is history". This listing from "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Guide to Property" puts a property value of $12,000,000 on the Resort. This is a serious investment and start-up for Founders College. I wish them the best. -------------------- Stephen
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Aug 19 2006, 04:50 AM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5,849 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 2 |
There's TV news coverage (after a commercial) here.
-------------------- Betsy Speicher
Betsy's Law #1 - Reality is the winning side. Betsy's Law #2 - In the long run you get the kind of friends -- and the kind of enemies -- you deserve. |
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Aug 23 2006, 02:29 PM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 7,870 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 1 |
Founders College has confirmed the site location in this press release:
QUOTE Founders College Announces its Location in Virginia Founders College has contracted to open its Fall 2007 operations* in Campbell County, Virginia, in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The four-year, residential liberal arts college plans to locate on the site of the Merritt Hutchinson Estate, a luxurious resort and conference center situated between Roanoke and Lynchburg, Virginia. The property’s extensive facilities integrate the intimacy of a gracious country manor with the sophistication of old-world opulence and modern comfort. The future campus includes over 1100 acres of rolling hills and lakes, and numerous recreational options such as fishing, swimming, hiking, golf and equestrian. "After months of extensive research, we chose Virginia primarily because of its unparalled business-friendly environment," says Tamara Fuller, Founders’ Chief Strategy Officer. "Founders College will provide students with an exceptional education that sparks a lifelong passion for knowledge. We wanted our choice of location to honor the uniqueness of that vision." For more information on Founders College, visit www.founderscollege.com. For media inquiries, contact Sarah Francomano at 617-937-2580 sarah.francomano@mslpr.com *Disclaimer: The State Council of Higher Education for Virginia has authorized Founders to use "College" in conjunction with its post-secondary education affairs and business in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Founders College has filed an Institutional Application Certification Form with the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia. Founders College also has entered a contract for the purchase of land and buildings -- the Merritt-Hutchinson Estate in Campbell County,Virginia -- to serve as its campus, subject to zoning and other permits of the County Government. In accordance with Virginia Code Annotated Section 23-276.4, until the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia issues a Certificate to Operate, Founders College may not solicit or accept the enrollment of students. -------------------- Stephen
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Aug 23 2006, 02:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 317 |
In Virginia, Founders College indeed!
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Aug 23 2006, 03:15 PM
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I look forward to touring the campus with my daughter in about 14 years, assuming things go well.
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Aug 24 2006, 11:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 10-February 05 From: Trescott, ME; Concord, MA Member No.: 29 |
QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Aug 23 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]37109[/snapback] Founders College has confirmed the site location in this press release: Link for the press release? |
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Aug 25 2006, 01:19 AM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 7,870 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE(ewv @ Aug 24 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]37191[/snapback] QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Aug 23 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]37109[/snapback] Founders College has confirmed the site location in this press release: Link for the press release? I do not think there is an official link for Founders College press releases yet. Perhaps when a more full version of their website comes online next month. I just reproduced the press release itself. -------------------- Stephen
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Aug 28 2006, 03:44 AM
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You can find more information about the estate along with photos here:
http://www.midatlanticestates.com/showcase...tchinsonweb.htm -------------------- Still to new heights his restless wishes tow'r,
Claim leads to claim, pow'r advances pow'r; Till conquest unresisted ceas'd to please, And rights submitted, left him none to seize. Samuel Johnson On the Vanity of Human Wishes |
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Sep 4 2006, 04:28 PM
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A interesting perspective on the Founder's College. (Link )
DISCLAIMER: I know very little about Gary Hull and since very little information has been released on the Founder's College, I can't agree or disagree with the linked essay. |
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Sep 4 2006, 05:13 PM
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![]() Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 7,870 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Thousand Oaks, California Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE(tommyedison @ Sep 4 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]37917[/snapback] A interesting perspective on the Founder's College. (Link ) "[I]nteresting perspective" would not be my choice of words. That piece is one extended smear by implication and innuendo. And, as it has so properly been characterized to me by another, it is a piece worthy of modern skeptics. Note the skeptic's favorite epistemological trick: arbitrary questions designed to instill doubt in the unfocused reader. The "interesting perspective" of that piece is worthy of the tabloid journals, not mention on THE FORUM. I only allow the reference now so that those who would be so unfortunate to see it anyway, have the benefit of my relegating that piece to the trash heap in which it belongs. And, stating this for the benefit of "noumenalself" and any supporters of that piece (if there are any), I will not permit any attempted defense or support for that trash on THE FORUM. -------------------- Stephen
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Sep 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(tommyedison @ Sep 4 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]37917[/snapback] DISCLAIMER: I know very little about Gary Hull ... For the record, over the years I have had personal disagreements with Gary Hull. I say this lest anyone even have the inkling of an impression that any personal allegiance is involved here on my part, Any support I have voiced here towards Founders College is a simple matter of justice: support for a substantial project that could be of enormous value, and recognition of a rational dream sought by Gary and others in the project. As to some Objectivist detractors: whatever happened to objectivity and benevolence? -------------------- Stephen
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Sep 5 2006, 06:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 8-July 06 From: San Diego, CA USA Member No.: 930 |
QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Sep 4 2006, 10:49 AM) [snapback]37920[/snapback] As to some Objectivist detractors: whatever happened to objectivity and benevolence? I feel compelled add my "amen, brother" to this statement. I thought that was a hatchet piece and it significantly lowered my opinion of its author in my estimation. -------------------- oldsalt
(AKA Janet_Busch on the FORUM) "Where knowledge and reason fail, the pigs will lurch and waddle on their hind legs, and the other beasts will gawk in admiration and envy." Richard Mitchell |
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Sep 6 2006, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(Stephen Speicher @ Sep 4 2006, 10:13 AM) [snapback]37919[/snapback] I only allow the reference now so that those who would be so unfortunate to see it anyway, have the benefit of my relegating that piece to the trash heap in which it belongs. Trash, indeed. It's just a bunch of ominous-sounding questions. It reminds me of a form of argument called an appeal to probability, which works a bit like first reciting a list of every conceivable bogeyman and then shouting “Boo!” at the end. What a shame. Oddly, he/she concludes his cutting questionnaire by asking, "Why have so many Objectivists been so uncritical about [Founders College]?" If he had really wanted to know the answer to that question, he might have asked it before going public with so many derogatory comments. As for the FUD factor (fear, uncertainty, and doubt), I say who cares if some specific facts about the proposed college have not been addressed publicly? I think we can safely assume that by the time Mr. Hull opens his college, he will do so with all the necessary facts on the table. And who cares if he and his partners make a few mistakes going forward? Is that any reason to pull the plug? Surely we can expect to see some above-average ingenuity and determination coming from Mr. Hull and his investors, to say the least. Problems can be solved. I just don't get it. Why make Mr. Hull's already difficult job even more difficult by casting aspersions on his private ambitions before he even gets started? Why not at least show a little positive thinking, or as Stephen put it, how about some benevolence? Not to mention a strong focus on selfishness and independence. On that note, I have to ask myself rhetorically, what difference does any of this make to my life? I for one am curious and hopeful about Founders College. Its prospects are looking quite good — as near as I can tell, that is, given the limited flow of information up to now. But whether it succeeds or fails, what on Earth do I gain personally by being a naysayer? Absolutely nothing. |
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Sep 6 2006, 02:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 4-May 05 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 440 |
On that note, I have to ask myself rhetorically, what difference does any of this make to my life? I for one am curious and hopeful about Founders College. Its prospects are looking quite good — as near as I can tell, that is, given the limited flow of information up to now. But whether it succeeds or fails, what on Earth do I gain personally by being a naysayer? Absolutely nothing. Indeed. I've taken a wait-and-see attitude towards Founders College. Some of the information they've put out sounds promising. Some is too vague to serve as a basis for judgement. I'll neither condemn nor praise without more information, although I will wish Dr. Hull well in his endeavor. There is one element I noticed in the critique that I think deserves comment. The concern that Hull is seeking to "ghettoize" Objectivist intellectuals carries a tinge of collectivist thinking, as though said intellectuals are somehow the property of the Objectivist movement and Dr. Hull would be misappropriating resources by hiring them. These people are individuals, capable of making their own judgements about how best to pursue their own careers and values. Even if an institution like Founders College is not the best way to change the culture, those involved with it are under no obligation to sacrifice their own values to the goal of maximizing the speed of cultural change. The contrary position is based on a subtle but pernicious altruistic moral premise. |
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Sep 6 2006, 02:20 AM
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I just don't get it. Why make Mr. Hull's already difficult job even more difficult by casting aspersions on his private ambitions before he even gets started? Why not at least show a little positive thinking, or as Stephen put it, how about some benevolence? Not to mention a strong focus on selfishness and independence. And the overall lack of objectivity is simply astounding. Note, for instance, the level of concern that is expressed by one of the commenters on that blog. GS finds it disturbing that Founders College did not start "small on rented property, pitching themselves as an experiment in education." Does GS begrudge Hull et al for having the audacity to start on a large scale, putting their own money where GS's mouth is? Where exactly is it ordained that "small on rented property" is the proper approach for starting a college? Is GS an expert on business plans for start-up colleges? Does GS have any knowledge whatsoever of the detailed plans of those who are actually willing to stake their reputation and invest their own money in that which they value? How dare GS, out of sheer ignorance, plant the seeds of an approach that is supposedly "disturbing[ly]." Likewise for GS finding it disturbing that Founders College has the audacity to present itself as a serious and valuable place for learning, rather than presenting itself as GS's "pitching themselves as an experiment in education." If Hull et al have the confidence of their own judgment are they supposed to sacrifice that to GS in the name of humility? GS further rails against the plans for the college because "they are purchasing expensive properties, hiring gourmet chefs, and offering themselves up as the new Rolls Royce of education to a demographic that has no reason to give credence to their claims." This is absolutely amazing. Again GS seems to begrudge the willingness of Hull et al to invest their own money in first class facilities, as if doing so is some ipso facto failing. As to the "credence to their claims," Founders College has so far only made public a single-page website, with the rest to follow. It will be up to prospective students, the "demographic," not GS, to judge whether Founders College seems worthy of their attention, and when more information is made available they will some more evidence to do so. But GS, out of sheer ignorance, turns forthcoming details into a premonition of failure. GS claims: "Given this, the founders themselves cannot have good reason to think that a venture of this sort, carried out in this manner and on this scale, will succeed." Superlatives cannot adequately express the illogic of GS's argument and conclusion. GS knows nothing about the specific detailed plans of the college, but based on his own ignorance he concludes, (or, perhaps mindreads is a better expression) that the founders of the college themselves cannot have good reason to think their plans (of which GS knows virtually nothing) will succeeed! Apparently "objectivity" is easier for some Objectivists to spell than to actually implement. I am truly disgusted at the spectacle I see. Not knowing the details it is perfectly reasonable to think of Founders College as a risky venture, much like many other businesses that are formed. But to condemn the project virtually out of hand, based on ignorance and assuming the worst, to rip apart the dreams of Objectivists who are willing to invest their time, money and effort in what could possibly turn out to be a spectacular venture, is pathetic beyond words. -------------------- Stephen
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